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1 posted on 05/27/2005 7:23:14 AM PDT by sionnsar
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2 posted on 05/27/2005 7:23:43 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Fraud in WA: More votes than voters!)
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Pathetic and sad.

btw, the pictures didn't post.

3 posted on 05/27/2005 7:27:24 AM PDT by conservonator (Lord, bless Your servant Benedict XVI)
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They are claiming that they are doing the first ever Clown Eucharist.

Clown masses have been around for years. That does not in any way diminish the disgust than any right thinking Christian should feel towards them. It is desecration of the highest order.

4 posted on 05/27/2005 7:30:09 AM PDT by trad_anglican
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How sad. Such a beautiful, old and historic church. I remember going to Tenebrae services there when I lived in New York. One of the few things the Episcopal Church has had going for it in recent years is that its liturgies have generally been more reverent, traditional and beautiful than your average Catholic liturgy. If you add bad "contemporary" liturgies to heresy, what have you got left?


5 posted on 05/27/2005 7:30:56 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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The only word for this is "sacrilegious". Why would anyone voluntarily participate in such an open mockery of their own liturgy?

The barbarians aren't at the gate, they're on the altar.
8 posted on 05/27/2005 8:33:58 AM PDT by Gingersnap
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One question.
Was this a meeting of the Grand Order of the Clowns or a real church service? (I hate clowns, always have.)


21 posted on 05/27/2005 9:29:32 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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From www.layman.org

New York City pastor schedules 'Clown Eucharist' at church

The Layman Online Friday, May 20, 2005
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An Episcopal church in New York City will celebrate a "Clown Eucharist" at its 11:15 a.m. Sunday service. The rector of Trinity Church-St. Paul's Chapel Trinity Church, the Rev. Dr. James Herbert Cooper, has encouraged the parish family to come to church "in clown dress, big hats, floppy shoes or some sort of foolish garb. Those watching on the Internet might even be foolish enough to put on some white face or a big grease-paint smile as we worship God and learn about the structure of the Eucharist by being the circus which came to town and to church on that day."

In a letter posted on the church's Web site, Cooper said that the church would celebrate Trinity Sunday with the Clown Eucharist, "'doing church' as if we were a circus come to town. We will celebrate the Eucharist and learn about the basic traditional outline for Eucharistic worship by experiencing it and participating in it from a new perspective."

While he admitted that it might "be a surprise to see clowns inside Trinity Church," he asked church members to think about "how we perceive the world in light of our relationship with Jesus could rightly be called foolish. Jesus looked at things in a new and strange way – a foolish way. But, as St. Paul said, the foolishness of God is wiser than the wisdom of the world. Paul declared himself a fool for Christ's sake."

According to Cooper, "clowns represent the underdog, the lowly, the remnant people. Their foolishness is a call to unpretentiousness. They take incredible risks – balancing on tight ropes, eating fire, keeping silent, being poked by others or getting soaked in water. Clowns are parables in themselves, spending great amounts of energy uncovering small things, then showing forth the hidden treasure of life (like the kingdom of God) and, surprisingly to us, giving their most cherished possessions to others. … Clowns look at the world, like parables, inside out and upside down: the last shall be first, the smallest seed is the greatest tree, and those who work all day get paid the same as those who worked an hour. To the world, this is foolishness.

"Yet foolishness – the foolishness of God – is wiser than man. It brings light, laughter, joy, renewal, salvation, and life. Whose fool are you?"

The Web site did note "that only the 11:15 service at Trinity will be a Clown Eucharist. In addition to the regular services (8 a.m. St. Paul's Chapel, 9 a.m. Trinity Church), a traditional service will be held at St. Paul's Chapel at 11:15 a.m."

25 posted on 05/27/2005 10:17:51 AM PDT by vox_freedom (Fear no evil)
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it is like a train wreck...I couldn't look away, it made me sick and my jaw is still on the floor.


28 posted on 05/27/2005 11:07:02 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ("A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.")
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What a shame. I worked at 71 Broadway for a few years while going to college. I and a few others would, on occassion, it in the cemetary area having a sandwich at lunch. Of course most of the time we sat on the Federal Building steps just a block away at Broad and Wall. The first few rows have signs on them indicating the pew where Wasshington and rest sat. Where I worked at 71 Broadway was the original site of Columbia University. The Church is surrounded by Rector St, Broadway and Trinity Place. Picture is from their site. George Washington and Jefferson must turn in their graves to see this. It was the Church they attended services at while the Government was in New York. Washington was sworn in at the same Federal Building
42 posted on 05/27/2005 12:20:34 PM PDT by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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Oh, my, I just got the link to work (my computer). Unbelievable. Clowns are so creepy.


50 posted on 05/27/2005 1:19:59 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: sionnsar

so what.
People should be able to do what they want. If some guy wants to dress up as a clown and give a service, and people want to watch, big deal. Life gets a lot worse.
Nothing here. Move on


75 posted on 05/27/2005 9:08:59 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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This is truly an apostate church. I am shocked to see so many in the church "audience" participate in a blasphemy like this.

The music they played was just as irreverent and disturbing.

If I were Episcopalian, I think I would just quit and join the Roman Catholic Church.


80 posted on 06/07/2005 9:56:16 AM PDT by A. Patriot
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