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To: stormyseas; redgolum; Old Sarge; All

Gwarsh, guess I didn't realize I held that post red! Blush. What a responsibility! LOL.

Old Sarge, Don't really want to go around and around with you on this one. I respect you tons and even a long list of your biases tons--just not this one. You COULD be more charitable toward those of us with a different perspective.

Stormy . . . In the early days of FR, anyone posting ANYTHING out of THE CONVENTIONAL NORM were considered trolls out to destroy FR.

Wasn't a very enlightened or factual thing then and isn't now. Some trolls did try and discredit FR with some pretty outlandish stuff. And, the folks viscerally, biased-ly hostile to supernatural stuff whether spiritual, Biblical or otherwise were compulsively prone to rant and rail at any hint of such posted on FR. Some of that bent remains--especially on the part of some particular folk. I'd suggest ignoring them. There's no reasoning with most of them.

In terms of your question . . . There's NO QUESTION--as evidenced in the doc you ref AND A VERY LONG LIST of UN and other international organizations' house organ publications FOR AT LEAST THE LAST 50 YEARS [studied them in my job as acting head of the univ Special Collections Dept 1965-1969]--THERE'S NO QUESTION but that the UN et al have been working inexorably toward the Biblical one world government for a very long time.

Certainly satan has been working toward it far longer.

You are right--as Rothschild reportedly asserted--he didn't care what form of government a country had as long as he had control of the money. Certainly the world-wide use of credit/debit cards and the pending transfer of such to the SLAG will wrap that goal up very tidily with all the world's citizens serfs to that system just as The Bible predicted--no one will be able to buy or sell without it AS THE BIBLE PREDICTED ~2000 years ago.

FR folk can be willfully ignorant of the well documented facts and call them a conspiracy 'theory' if they wish. Facts are still facts. And these facts are very abundant for anyone with a 6th grade capacity to do research in the original documents. What do they think--that these organizations and lofty world leaders are just farting through both ends for entertainment and have NO intention of establishing a world government of tyranny?

Do they really think that SHRILLERY Antoinette de Fosterizer de Marx de Machiavelli de Stalin de Pol Pot de Sade ONLY wants to be head of the USA??? She at least wants to be head of one of the 10 WORLD SUPRANATIONAL REGIONS--NORTH AM but she likely is bucking for head of the hemisphere given her grandiosity.

Certainly the world court IS PART OF THAT PUZZLE ALONG WITH THE LAW OF THE SEA. Reagan was right to oppose it. Bush is wrong to support it whether he's been threatened with his life if he doesn't or not.

We are right to oppose all such moves though they will inexorably occur anyway. It's always wise to be on the side of right, imho.

We know from Scripture that the world government will occur. It will be in power 3.5-7 years plus maybe some 'birth-pang' years. Though in many ways--it already is in power economically.

I also have long pondered the status of the USA in the end times. I know Dimitru Duduman saw many dreams and visions of China, Russia and a list of other nations attacking the USA from the West Coast, through Mexico [China and probably No Korea] and the East Coast, Alaska, Gulf of Mexico [Russia, Cuba, Lybia, Iran, and 'a European nation' which I have assumed was France].

He saw the battle bog down with the middle USA somewhat in patriot's control. He saw Christian Chinese in the PLA eventually turn and fight with Americans against their Chinese fellow soldiers. He saw a Chinese general set out to execute EVERY American in California until he was assassinated in San Francisco. He reportedly will use mass burials alive with buldozers amongst other means. Supposedly Russia will seek to kill every American in Alaska--no small task given the distances and dispersions.

We shall see.

Personally, I believe that the USA must cease to be Israel's protector. GOD ALONE IS DETERMINED TO FILL THAT ROLE. But, we will pay dearly for forsaking Israel, too.

I believe that Americans have far more than ever in my life forsaken God and God's ways and that we will reap what we have sown in that regard. I realize that there are still many seriously Bible believing Christians in the land. Perhaps we are more than the 10 that God couldn't find in Lot proportionally. However, I also know that the best churches in my town seem to be hideous charades of Christianity. I know that even the better Christians I know have great trouble acting remotely Christ-like.

Thanks for your post. Post more, if you wish. And if you want on my DREAMS, VISIONS, PROPHECY PING LIST, please let me know. Generally speaking, JR prefers such posts be put in the religion forum or even chat.

Blessings.


16 posted on 05/26/2005 7:14:09 AM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: Quix

nice very nice, thank you...I also believe America must stop protecting Israel....and everything else you wrote. I am not sure what a ping list is but...lol...I am new to this whole thing honestly. Ignoring people I can do well...;) bless you for the reply.


17 posted on 05/26/2005 7:20:43 AM PDT by stormyseas
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To: Quix

Mark for later read - Quix, you didn't know you were "the prophecy guy"? LOL :-)


18 posted on 05/26/2005 7:21:06 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (I have learned to deal with change. Any possibility of letting me try some currency?)
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To: Quix
We are right to oppose all such moves though they will inexorably occur anyway. It's always wise to be on the side of right, imho.

Hello Quix.

I have mixed feelings on this, Shall we oppose the fulfillmant of prophecy?

82 posted on 05/26/2005 2:02:44 PM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: Quix

Hi Quix, glad to read this.

Have missed reading much from you here on FR lately.

JM


86 posted on 05/26/2005 4:35:19 PM PDT by JockoManning (www.biblegateway.com)
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To: Quix

This thread is way under 1 standard deviation for what used to be posted. We had an entire school of thought just on conspiracies and this would have been lightweight compared to what was posted then.


167 posted on 05/28/2005 12:30:52 PM PDT by bigsigh
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