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The following four articles were posted the same day on titusonenine, for discussion.

Posted 3:05 PM by kendall
Comments on the Three Legged Stool

The three pieces below ought to be enough, I hope, to generate some discussion about the three legged stool. I will only make two comments at this point.

First, Richard Hooker never spoke about a stool with three legs. The correct quote is: "What Scripture doth plainly deliver, to that the first place both of credit and obedience is due; the next whereunto, is what any man can necessarily conclude by force of Reason; after this, the voice of the church succeedeth" (Laws of Ecclesiastical Polity, Vol. 5). It ought to get our curiosity up that Hooker not only doesn't use the image of the stool, but when he discusses the threesome at all it is in a different order than nearly all of those who claim the existence of such a stool.

I also have questions about the precise meaning of the term “reason.” Often this word is defined as human analytical capacity, and sometimes even as simple common sense. The picture seems to be of a person examining the evidence and then deciding what is the most “reasonable” interpretation. But many of the prominent classical Anglicans—people such as Thomas Cranmer, Richard Hooker, and their contemporaries —meant something quite different when they used the term “reason.”

Reason for them was the means by which they could try to understand God’s revelation in Jesus Christ; neither it nor Tradition was given equal weight with Scripture. Rather than being isolated from Scripture and Tradition, reason was formed by these two sources: it was a faculty saturated by revelation and grace. The closest idea in modern parlance may be Christian character or virtue, and it is character of a particular kind, best seen in Jesus' very important statement in John 7:17: "if any one's will is to do his will, he shall know..." Part of the mystery of revelation is that it is given "through faith for faith" (Romans 1:17), and therefore a spiritual disposition to seek after God in one's heart is one of the preconditions that enables a person to better hear his voice.


Posted 2:46 PM by kendall
Christopher Seitz on the Three Legged Stool

At some point in the twentieth century, Anglican Christians became persuaded they possessed a special divining rod for discerning Christian truth. Indeed, it was raised to the status of Anglicanism’s special signature as such, against the denominational distinctives of others. It so took hold in the last century, in the vacuum created by the loss of a serious, pre-Tractarian doctrine of scripture, that it succeeded in cutting a wide swath through ecclesial discussions before it won a major victory: claim to antiquity and venerable, across-the-ages authority. That is, it became just the sort of comprehensive, sufficiently vague, allegedly distinctive Anglican “principle” needed to do duty once it was no longer clear what Pusey had been worried about. This principle stood ready to accommodate Anglicans of every stripe, and indeed one might argue that it was the most lethal agent of obfuscation ever foisted upon Christian people, by virtue of its ability to confuse and forestall and shift and defer. The ultimate insult to history was to suggest that Richard Hooker was its progenitor.

“Scripture, Reason, Tradition” (and its various cousins) is a train able to stop at every station, and always add one more carriage. There is practically nothing it cannot accommodate.We should probably not be surprised that an organic notion found in Hooker would be perverted by Western, consumerist Christians and turned into a sort of channel-changer, to find the a stool-leg to suit. How could homosexual behavior run this three-legged gauntlet? Is the scripture leg not clear? Would Hooker have regarded scripture as unclear on this matter? The answer is so obvious as to invite sheer puzzlement as to how anything so clear could have become unclear in the intervening centuries. This query into God’s will would have been a real home-run ball for Hooker, where he got to touch all three bases and walk into home plate. In Hooker’s universe, Tradition would have been clear, and Reason would have been even clearer. Hooker’s Natural Law appeals are far closer to those of Calvin than of any post-Tractarian. Hooker’s natural law was divine law, such as was described in scripture itself. It is precisely the same sort of appeal that Paul makes in Romans 1, and indeed it is uncontroversial that until the 19th century, Reason and Natural Law cohered and derived their status as Christian authority because of scripture’s own revealed word about creation and God’s sovereign design therein (prior to the technological manipulation of all things “natural” – scare quotes now being required).

The conclusion to be reached is that a vacuum was created after the failure of Anglicanism to retain a doctrine of scripture into the 20th century, and the three-legged stool suddenly emerged as precisely the sort of comprehensive lens needed to accommodate varieties of Anglicans who had simply lost their way. Some could hear it as a very conservative principle, and did; others could see it as a channel-changer for an Anglican TV-set inherently diverse and ambiguous. Indeed, it defined what Anglicanism is at its very center: a divinely given “right” to chose, and defer, and study, and then worship (in a Eucharist). At least we should be fair and stop attributing such a view to Hooker.

The most tragic episode in Anglicanism’s recourse to the stool is difficult to pinpoint, because the so-called principle is, in the nature of the thing, a study in ambiguity, so soon as it is removed from the environment in which it was originally deployed. Reformed catholicism of Hooker’s day can only be dragged violently into the 20th century. Legs would get sawed off, inevitably, and then used as clubs: some wielding one, and others another. It is hard to imagine a better way to mislead and confuse Christians seeking guidance and revelation from a scripture called holy, within a church called catholic, in a world that scripture tells us bears God’s design and glory, however poorly perceived by sinful women and men, than by claiming a three-legged stool as a distinctive feature. This would wreak havoc, and indeed it has.

--The Rev. Dr. Christopher Seitz is Professor of Divinity at the University of Saint Andrew's in Scotland


Posted 2:27 PM by kendall
Janice Newton on the Three-Legged Stool

I have often been troubled by the three-legged stool concept of Bible, tradition and reason as the stable grounding for the Christian faith and for the Christian’s faith.

I have a three-legged stool at home and when my young grandchildren climb on to it, it is so unstable that it tips over. It is not a good place to try and sit. Three-legged stools were designed in olden times to enable the stool not to wobble when placed on uneven floors. If the basis for our faith is already unstable, maybe we want to compensate by giving our explanation of it as three-legged, so it won’t wobble so much when tested. However, as Christians we have a much more secure base upon which to build our faith. We build on the rock that is Christ, upon his words that supply the firm ground for our belief. [1]

I remember in my teenage years how we would leave the young peoples Bible Study on a Saturday evening and congregate in our favourite place - the coffee bar at the end of the High Street. There the high stools with yellow, red, green and blue seats were bright and attractive. Their support was a strong steel pole that brought a stylish, shiny appeal to the whole place. Raised above ground level we would sit and discuss everything, from the passage of the Bible we had been studying to the latest in fashions and music, whilst solving the world’s problems, which our parents had failed to address!

It is bar stools like these that seem to me to represent a truer picture of the basis for discerning our true Christian inheritance. As God’s people we are set in the world, in the hustle and bustle of ordinary life. We need a secure basis for our faith so that we are not blown about by the latest fads and theories. [2]

God has given us the book of books as our inheritance. Through it the God of Truth has communicated with his people down the ages. This is not a God who lies. He has not misled those Christians who taught us the truth and gave us examples to follow. He does not change his mind on a whim or a fashion or a desire to show how intellectually clever he is. In the Bible God speaks to his people, whether they like what they hear or not. Thus the Bible is like the solid, single supporting leg of the stool upon which we sit. Just as the steel bar stools were set in immovable concrete, so, our God has given us a stable support in his word, both in The Word, - our Saviour Christ [3]- the scriptures given for our learning[4]. These are our main and solidly founded support. Nothing equals them. From the beginning they speak of Christ and Christ used them as his yardstick. [5] How much more should we, his disciples.

However, God has also given us means for making that scriptural word understandable. Tradition is one of those means. Different people in my youth group chose a different coloured stool to sit on. We each had our favourite colour. Thus, with tradition. This adds colour to the church. In our denominations, in our reading of the early church fathers, in our choice of creeds, we all find the ones we like most. The ones who provide the most comforting or challenging way of helping us unravel some of the truths about God. The padded seats of the bar stools in their vibrant differences provide a comfortable place to sit upon a Bible which often challenges us to be uncomfortable about our prejudices, judgments and ideas. We could sit on the Bible pillar alone, but the padding of tradition makes it easier. We have the rich inheritance of former learning to prevent us making the same mistakes of heresy and apostasy. Tradition helps the sometimes painful truth of God to become absorbable. Tradition helps us to observe the truths of God within the conduct of worship and fellowship in a way that leads us to acknowledge how the old truths have meaning for our lives today.

God’s Bible truths should lift us above our earthly selves towards our Maker. The coffee bar stools were too high to slide on easily. In order to perch on them, we needed help to lift ourselves off the ground. There was always a ring around the steel pillar to aid us, to lift us up and to keep our feet firmly based on the metal, so that we neither swung needlessly around nor fell off. [6] The steel ring of reason helps to keep our thought and intellect firmly concentrated on the truth as we look at the Bible.

Reason is a God-given, creative part of how God made us like himself in the very beginning. He intends us to be a thoughtful people. However, that thoughtful reasoning is a support. It is not equal to the mind of God and Christ as revealed in His word. How arrogant of humankind that we think we can re-interpret the truths of God to fit our sinful circumstances, in order to justify our actions and thoughts. How meager is our judgment of what is best, when all along God has a better, fuller life to offer us. How egotistically self-centered is our failure to listen to his loving desire to transform us through the forgiving, cleansing actions of Christ, who died to save us.

The three-legged stool only serves to instruct our arrogance. It sets two man-centered concepts, tradition and reason, against the God-centered Bible. It provides a false analogy whereby the created being raises itself to claim equality with the Creator. The ring near the base of single legged bar stool reminds us that our reason is only a support to interpret the word of God. The padded seat provides some traditional comfort as we tackle the hard issues of that word challenging us. The steel beauty of the single pillar of the Bible is the major support and strength of the Christian Faith. This is where God speaks to his people. Let us be humble enough to learn from him. How magnificently, wondrously awe-filling it is, that our God communicates to his people through His written word and reveals the truth about His Living Word, our beloved Savior, Jesus Christ.

[1]Matthew 7.24
[2]1 Tim. 1.3-6
[3]John 1.1
[4]II Tim. 3.14-17
[5]Luke 24. 25-27
[6]Ephesians 4.13-15

--Since January 1999, Janice Newton and her husband Peter, an Anglican clergyman, have led the Advent House ministry in Birmingham, Alabama for part of every year. Its purpose is to provide a place for concentrated prayer and learning to grow in the Christian faith.


Posted 2:14 PM by kendall Chuck Collins on the Three Legged Stool

A sick paradigm has made its way into everyday Episcopal thinking. It comes pretending to be an ancient truth, but it's only a modern idea. It threatens some pillars of our Anglican and Episcopal identity. Maybe it even means to do so. I am referring to the spurious analogy of the "three-legged stool."

Like a million other teenagers, I first encountered the three-legged stool in confirmation class. I learned that the legs stand for the three sources of authority: scripture, reason and tradition. As it was taught, each is equally important and necessary to counterbalance the other two. Innumerable times since then I have heard Sunday school teachers, priests and even seminary professors dish this out as standard Episcopal fare.

At first glance, there is much to like about this teaching. The three legs appear to constitute a steady stool on which to rest our faith as Episcopalians. But I have discovered it is unfaithful to our heritage.

Richard Hooker (1554-1600), recognized as perhaps our greatest theologian, is routinely credited with this teaching, but he never used the analogy of the stool. In his famous work, Ecclesiastical Polity, he did call the relation of scripture, tradition and reason a "threefold cord not quickly broken," but he never referred to the three as equal sources of authority. In fact, Hooker stood firmly with his predecessors, the English reformers, all upholding the Bible as the primary source of authority.

There is no doubt Hooker raised the value of reason and tradition, and that these help to define the unique "Episcopal way" for framing theology. It's even fair to say that reason and tradition keep our interpretation of scripture guided and on track. Nevertheless, Hooker never suggested that they were anything other than subordinate to scripture. For Hooker, reason makes it possible to receive revelation, the word of God. And tradition was understood as the church's interpretation of scripture over time. It should be evident that our understanding of reason and tradition is vastly different from Hooker's. To quote Hooker in context is to give scripture unrivaled priority.

The stool myth has its origins in the 19th century. John Keble in 1836 wrote an introduction to Hooker's Ecclesiastical Polity in which he spoke of "tradition" as a separate authority alongside scripture. Keble and others involved in what came to be called the Oxford Movement predate the formal idea of three separate sources of authority but they opened the door for its future development. They took a step in the direction of shaking loose the long-held understanding that tradition is under scripture and judged by it.

Nearing the turn of the century, Charles Gore edited a famous collection of essays which is credited (or blamed) for Anglican endorsement of the new learning of their day, the historical critical view of the Bible (Lux Mundi, 1889). The steamroller of the Enlightenment's confidence in human reason would not be stopped! Although the merits of the Oxford Movement and modern biblical criticism will be debated until the cows come home, one unfortunate side effect was what happened to our understanding of authority. Granted, many secondary matters fall within the area of what is affectionately known as "Episcopal ambiguity," but this doesn't include the defining principles of our faith. The preface of our prayer book makes this important distinction between doctrine and discipline, doctrine being the essentials of the gospel that are true for all peoples at all times, "the faith once and for all delivered" (Jude 3). The 19th-century movements indicate the beginning of the erosion of the doctrine of the primacy of scripture. And the three-legged stool was as good as ordered.

The three-legged stool represents a dangerous departure from historic Episcopalianism. It's a 20th-century idea, and a bad one.

Who could question that the closest thing we Episcopalians have to a confession, the 16th-century "Articles of Religion," thoroughly uphold the primacy of the Bible? Read, for examples, Articles 6,7,8 and 20. Article 34 plainly says that church traditions must bow to the authority of the Bible (Book of Common Prayer, pp. 867-876).

Likewise, there is not a trace of the three-legged stool in the prayer book. Rather, the Bible is consistently affirmed as primary. For example, the collect for Proper 28 affirms the divine authorship of the Bible (p. 236). And when the catechism asks how someone determines if a teaching comes from God, we respond: "We recognize truths to be taught by the Holy Spirit when they are in accord with the Scriptures" (p. 853).

When tradition and reason (and "experience," for that matter) are elevated to be "complementary" to scripture, they, in fact, become competing standards. It's obviously that a Bible story cannot be equally "reasonable" and "miraculous." The definition of "miracle" involves something outside the grasp of human reason. When "reason" is raised to become an equal authority, the old test for truth (Is it scriptural?) is replaced by the new test: Is it reasonable?

Obviously, large portions of the Bible (miracles, the Incarnation, the Resurrection, etc.) will be dismissed for failing the new test. Reason just can't get its mind around someone walking on water! We've seen many, including bishops, walk away from the creedal faith on these grounds.

A variant of this is the teaching that Jesus Christ, not the Bible, is our final authority. This is certainly true as far as it goes, but this is often used as a theological slight of hand to justify moral behaviors the Bible clearly denounces. Yes, Jesus is our final authority, but he never judges scripture. He obeys and fulfills it.

"Tradition," as important as it is to Episcopalians, is another undeserving candidate to stand on equal footing with scripture. If a pope (or any bishop) speaks for God, extra-biblical and unbiblical teachings can assume the status of doctrine. In 1950, for example, the Roman Catholic Church declared the doctrine of the bodily assumption of Mary even though this lacks any scriptural basis.

It may sound pretty distant, but it is conceivable that the church, in the name of "developing tradition," could require this for admittance to holy communion. She did this once. Or she could require agreement with the practice of blessing same-sex couples before someone can gain access to the ordination processes. It's not too far-fetched. A not altogether dissimilar action happened at the last General Convention when bishops and dioceses were forced to accept ordination of women (a strange juxtaposition for an era of tolerance and diversity). With the Episcopal Church more fractured than ever, this is no time to hide behind unhelpful paradigms. The hope for healing the church is in rediscovering our biblical foundation. The Bible remains today what it has been to Christians throughout the centuries, "God telling us things in order to make friends with us" (J.I. Packer's phrase). It is clearly a human document with human personality. But no less it is the inspired word of God. As we humbly acknowledge the authority of God's word and seek to bend our lives to fit its message, he will show us his plan and lead us to the Savior. There is no hope for the sick paradigm of the three-legged stool, and no use hanging on to it.

--The Rev. Chuck Collins is former rector of St. Mark's-on-the-Mesa Church, Albuquerque, N.M., and former canon theologian in the Diocese of the Rio Grande. He is now the rector of Christ Episcopal Church, San Antonio, Texas. This essay is from the Living Church.

1 posted on 05/21/2005 3:37:29 PM PDT by sionnsar
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2 posted on 05/21/2005 3:38:27 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Newsweek lied, people died.)
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The venerable blogboys are so unconvincing. Hooker has never been your Anglican God, and distaste for the three-legged stool as an image is just tough luck for all of you. It is the metaphor used. It has a long history. As a Catholic, I can even say it is not bad as a theological method. But it is disastrous as a substitute for Authority. Therefore, I understand the almost desperate clutching after the Protestant vision of the Holy Bible (verging on a similar place as the Quran in Islam), but such a clutching is Protestant in the extreme and it does not bear up under the weight of Anglican witness.


3 posted on 08/06/2006 7:42:28 PM PDT by Maeve (St. Rafqa, pray for us.)
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To: sionnsar
Hmm. I thought the legs represented piety, study, and action.

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4 posted on 08/06/2006 7:54:53 PM PDT by cf_river_rat (And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee...Genesis 12:3(a), KJV)
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