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To: Blessed
Obviously this means tradition must be measured against scripture not the reverse.Just what Peter said in II Peter.

Let's look at the quote you are referring to, and I will place emphasis on the parts you seem to be intentionally avoiding:

"Although there are many who believe that they themselves hold to the teachings of Christ, there are yet some among them who think differently from their predecessors. The teaching of the Church has indeed been handed down through an order of succession from the apostles and remains in the churches even to the present time. That alone is to be believed as the truth which is in no way at variance with ecclesiastical and apostolic tradition" (The Fundamental Doctrines 1:2).

Could you point out where "Scripture" in mentioned once in that quote? It should be quite obvious that the early Church placed a greater emphasis on the authority of the teachers than on any specific written letter. It is also important to note that at this point in the Church's history, not a single Christian considered these writings "Scriptures" and never referred to them as such. They are merely called "writings." Whenever they do say the word "scripture" it is in reference to the Old Testament as the New Testament had not been canonized as a holy text yet.

And this is exactly what Peter is talking about in the following passage:

"2Pe 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; where unto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

Here he says scripture (word of prophecy) is more sure than a voice from heaven.He then continues to endorse the importance of scripture in the verses you contested.

Excuse me, but where on earth do you see the word "scriptures?" The "word" he is referring to is the spoken word, the oral Tradition that is currently being passed on by those with the authority to pass it on as the New Testament did not yet exist.

It baffles me how people who claim to believe only what is written in the Bible insert assumptions contained nowhere therein.
92 posted on 05/18/2005 8:02:58 AM PDT by mike182d ("Let fly the white flag of war." - Zapp Brannigan)
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To: mike182d

>Excuse me, but where on earth do you see the word "scriptures?" The "word" he is referring to is the spoken word, the oral Tradition that is currently being passed on by those with the authority to pass it on as the New Testament did not yet exist.<

He is refering in this instance to the Old Testament.If the Holy Spirit moved Peter to write this about the Scripture of the Old Testament why would the New Testament not be equally inspired and held with the same reverance?

If you read the next verse it is obvious "word of prophecy" is scripture because he says it in this verse.
2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

It is clear from scripture that Peter and the Apostles were very concerned about apostasy and relied on Scripture to prevent heresy from "oral traditions" from infecting the church.
Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.


98 posted on 05/18/2005 8:52:59 AM PDT by Blessed
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