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To: theFIRMbss
It's plain we don't "fall down to worship" Mary, as John explicitly says he attempted to do with the angel - and was rightly rebuked.

The tradition of the Church plainly distinguishes latria (worship) and the lesser dulia or honor which is paid to the saints, and the hyperdulia or special honor which is due to the Blessed Virgin as the theotokos or God-Bearer.

Since the Church treats the Communion of Saints (you know, it's in that thing called the Creed) as present throughout time and eternity, perhaps it would help if you think of Catholics as asking their good and holy friends who stand in the presence of God to remember them in their prayers -- just as you might ask a deacon or elder or righteous man "whose prayers avail much" to pray for you.

41 posted on 05/17/2005 9:47:29 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother; TattooedUSAFConservative
>" ... Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things. Then he said to me, "See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God." Revelation 22:8-9
>>It's plain we don't "fall down to worship" Mary, as John explicitly says he attempted to do with the angel - and was rightly rebuked
>>The verse says he was going to "worship" the angel. The angel stopped him, and rightly so.

Thank you for sharing
your response to this Scripture.
I notice you both

agree that the faith
of the Apostle John is
open to question;

but when modern folk
worship at the feet of stains
they believe picture

the Virgin Mary,
their "faith" must not be doubted.
I think John was made

of sterner stuff, and
the angel was rebuking
John's adoration

done in the wrong way.
But reasonable Christians
can disagree here.

55 posted on 05/17/2005 1:23:16 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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