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To: Corin Stormhands

***Well, thankfully the Lord and Moses disagreed with you.***

Well, that is funny because I was citing Scripture. You can reference it at Hebrews 13:17. This was also the scripture which the author cited, whom P-Marlowe accused of heresy for the very sentence in which he used the scripture.

Besides, your numbers verse doesn't do anything to overthrow my position and the author's position. Rather, it is yet another verse which proves my position.

In the service of the Lord,
Christian.


46 posted on 05/04/2005 9:21:41 AM PDT by thePilgrim (The feare of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fooles despise wisedome and instruction.)
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To: thePilgrim; P-Marlowe
Well, yes you cited the scripture referenced in the article, but it does nothing to prove your point. The question asked by the author was does there not come a point when the sheer size of a church makes such care difficult, if not impossible? Indeed, does not the very size of some churches promote anonymity?

And I believe that God gave that answer by given Moses the pattern to deal with the volume of people for whom he was responsible.

Who are you to say God isn't doing that in today's larger churches?

52 posted on 05/04/2005 10:02:26 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Will work for tagline.)
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To: thePilgrim; Corin Stormhands; xzins; Religion Moderator
Well, that is funny because I was citing Scripture. You can reference it at Hebrews 13:17. This was also the scripture which the author cited, whom P-Marlowe accused of heresy for the very sentence in which he used the scripture.

If you are going to reference me, it would be nice to ping me. And since we have been advised to avoid each other, it would be a good idea not to reference me or ping me.

That being said, the author has Hebrew 13:17 backwards. This verse is not an excuse to criticize the pastor, but is a requirement to pray for him and to obey him. The pastor is the one who has to give an account for his flock and in essence the verse is saying that when it comes down to it, whether the pastor is a CEO or a Shepherd is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. It is between the pastor and God. And if you can't give your pastor 100% support, then your job is to shut up or ship out.

The verse clearly says that we are not to give our leaders grief in how they are called to minister. But we are to obey them. The verse is not an excuse to publicly criticize those in charge. It is a call to obey them.

54 posted on 05/04/2005 10:14:35 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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