[Grey Ghost II]

Pope Pius may have thought he codified the Mass for all time, and he obviously thought he could. Vatican II changed that. Obviously Pius was wrong.

Pope Pius V has been declared a saint by Holy Mother Church. Paul VI has not yet even been beatified.

I'll stick with the saints for now.

[starfish923]

Pope Pius V has been declared a saint by Holy Mother Church. Paul VI has not yet even been beatified.
I'll stick with the saints for now.

Is that how you make your decisions? You keep some kind of "saint" scorecard?
Interesting way of thinking. People really dislike change. Interesting how they validate NOT changing. Yours is the saint scorecard method. What's the score 1-0?
That John Paul II followed the Vatican II must mean very little to you. What happens when HE becomes a saint? Will there be a tie score? What do you do then -- or are you too old now to have to worry about that far in the future?

[gbcdoj]

Pius XII has not been declared a saint. Do you reject his reforms of the Holy Week liturgy of St. Pius V, in the Apostolic Constitution Maxima Redemptoris?