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Spending at parish soars with new priest
WORLD-HERALD ^ | April 16, 2005 | CHRISTOPHER BURBACH

Posted on 04/16/2005 11:24:59 PM PDT by CatherineSiena

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To: Petskelis

Sorry, Pet, but I have no idea what the 'new assignment' is and I have no plans to follow Father. I've got my life here in Iowa.


401 posted on 08/08/2005 7:04:12 AM PDT by church militant
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To: Angelas; Concerned Catholic; Palladin

I don't know how this would affect our parish if we ever are in this kind of situation, but I thought it was interesting and worth posting here.


Vatican bars Boston archdiocese seizure of parish assets
Catholic World News ^ | 8-11-05 | Not attributed


Posted on 08/11/2005 4:44:24 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat


In a ruling that presents new complications for a sweeping reconfiguration plan in the Boston archdiocese, the Vatican has ruled that the archdiocese cannot unilaterally claim the assets of parishes that have been closed.

The Vatican decision affects not only the Boston archdiocese-- where it could delay parish closings-- but also other American dioceses that are seeking bankruptcy protection in federal courts. The decision addresses the hotly disputed topic: whether parish assets belong to the diocese, or must be considered separate.

In response to canonical protests filed by parishioners of several closed parishes, the Congregation for the Clergy said that parish assets cannot be seized by the archdiocese, and can be turned over to the archdiocese only with the consent of the pastors and their parish finance councils.

The exact content of the Vatican ruling has not been made public, but officials at the Boston archdiocese acknowledged that the ruling from the Congregation for the Clergy would raise new difficulties for the parish-closing process. However, Archbishop Sean O'Malley told reporters that the reconfiguration of the archdiocese would continue; he said that the Vatican was generally supportive of the process, and required only that the changes be made in accordance with the requirements of canon law.

The Boston archdiocese has been troubled by public protests and lawsuits-- brought in both civil and canonical courts-- by Catholics who objected to the closing of their parishes. The Vatican ruling affects seven such parishes, whose faithful had brought their canonical appeal to the Vatican.

The Congregation for the Clergy ruled that when a geographical parish is merged into another parish, the assets of the suppressed parish become subject to the control of the new parish, rather than the archdiocese. The properties of the old parish which has been closed can be surrendered to the archdiocese only with the consent of the new parish administration, the Vatican said.

The Boston archdiocese has begun talks with the pastors of the parishes affected by the Vatican ruling, hoping to obtain their consent for the handover of assets. At stake are millions of dollars in bank accounts in real-estate holdings, which the Archdiocese of Boston had planned to use to ease a severe financial crisis.

The Vatican's canonical decision has immediate implications for other American dioceses-- such as Portland, Oregon, and Tucson, Arizona-- where Church officials have told bankruptcy courts that they do not control the financial assets of their parishes. That contention has been challenged by plaintiffs in sex-abuse lawsuits, who argue that the diocese or archdiocese is the sole legal owner of parish properties.

Critics of the position adopted by the Archdiocese of Portland had pointed to the apparent contradiction between the claims of that archdiocese, which said that it could not control parish properties, and the plans of the Boston archdiocese to close parishes and take control of their assets.

The legal questions involved in parish ownership are likely to be addressed first by the federal bankruptcy court in Oregon, where the Portland archdiocese had been the first to claim a separation between archdiocesan and parish assets.



402 posted on 08/12/2005 7:42:31 AM PDT by Petskelis
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To: Petskelis; Palladin

Yes I did see this and have forwarded the article to the "malcontent" (the Arch's reference to us)group. It is critical that we install a new finance council and parish council and quickly remove the PMS cronies.

Wasn't that a wonderful homily PMS delivered last Sunday. Was any part of it related to religion or the Bible? I always say what goes around comes around.


403 posted on 08/12/2005 2:59:04 PM PDT by Angelas
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To: Petskelis; Palladin

It is confirmed...he is gone and Father Baxter has moved in to the rectory (no longer the Newman House)!

I feel sorry for the parishioners to wherever he went.Rumor has it he went back to the Poconos, New Jersey, or New York.

Alert for those states!


404 posted on 08/13/2005 3:02:14 PM PDT by Angelas
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To: Angelas

He had better not show up in the Poconos.

I'll dog his every step.


405 posted on 08/14/2005 11:00:21 AM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: Petskelis

Thank you, Pope Benedict! Now the theft and confiscation of parish assets by crooks like Stravinskas will be much harder to accomplish.


406 posted on 08/14/2005 11:05:20 AM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: Palladin

How about picking up a new hobby like shuffleboard or bingo?


407 posted on 08/19/2005 10:42:59 AM PDT by church militant
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To: church militant; Palladin; Petskelis
Bingo? That's funny! Remember the bingo account in NJ from a previous post:
"When Stravinskas took over as pastor of St. John's Byzantine Church in Bayonne, NJ he TOOK over and did everything HIS way which began with his redecorating the parish rectory with new phones, carpets and furniture. A sale of the old items was stopped by the bishop after it was seen in the paper.There was NOTHING wrong with what was already in the rectory. The finances of the parish were not overflowing and unnecessary spending should have been curtailed.

He never really took part in church affairs, rarely showed his face in the Parish Center and spent so much time on the Road away from his parish that no one was sure who would be saying mass that week. Temporary priests were always coming and going. We hardly ever saw him.

He was the only pastor who had to know immediately the morning after bingo how much money was deposited in the bingo account and in many cases the money was removed ASAP.
When he was asked questions about the finances of St. John's his reply was the "I do NOT have to answer to you or anyone else."

His going was a relief to many people. Perhaps this investigation is for the better. And we all know what "I decline to comment" usually means. Perhaps praying for the parish is more in order. Yours in Christ."
408 posted on 08/21/2005 4:53:38 PM PDT by Angelas
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To: Angelas

Angelas said:

"It is critical that we install a new finance council and parish council and quickly remove the PMS cronies."

That statement alone should disqualify you and your 'cronies' from serving on any boards or councils at St. Anthony's. It's obvious that you have a serious problem with authority and the hierarchy.

Do you really believe that Father Baxter is just going to sit in the rectory and let you call the shots? LOL!


409 posted on 08/22/2005 6:58:59 PM PDT by church militant
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To: church militant

"Do you really believe that Father Baxter is just going to sit in the rectory and let you call the shots?"

Of course not! Father Baxter will follow canonical guidelines and consult the councils on spending....but we now have nothing left to spend!


410 posted on 08/27/2005 4:38:51 PM PDT by Angelas
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