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To: PetroniusMaximus; elkclan; thePilgrim
But I've always found puzzling those portions of the Gospel where Jesus praises people for their virtue, i.e. the widow with the mite, the centurion with faith, etc.

That's what this article is addressing. Man can experience a general, temporal happiness on earth. Just like Cypher who wanted to return to the Matrix in order to experience the earthly pleasures of a good steak.

But just like Adam, none of us can obey Him perfectly, and thus all fall short of the glory of God. Left to our own devices, we will always fail and we will always deserve damnation for that failure.

Only by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ are we saved. Christ paid the price for our sins, every one of them, according to His plan for His creation ordained by Him from before the foundation of the world.

He alone ends the Matrix.

6 posted on 04/16/2005 12:29:33 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; elkclan; thePilgrim

***Man can experience a general, temporal happiness on earth. Just like Cypher who wanted to return to the Matrix in order to experience the earthly pleasures of a good steak.***


To me that would be more representitive of the carnal man - definitley not something God would praise and quite different from the selfless actions of the widow.


*** Left to our own devices, we will always fail and we will always deserve damnation for that failure.***

I assume you mean in the global sense, because Jesus did not see the widow's action as a failure or something that demanded damnation.

There's the contradiction, some theologies represent every act of pre-regenerate man as something utterly vile and repulsive to God. I don's see that in the Bible. Think of the pre-regenerate Cornelius...

"At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion of what was known as the Italian Cohort, a devout man who feared God with all his household, gave alms generously to the people, and prayed continually to God. About the ninth hour of the day he saw clearly in a vision an angel of God come in and say to him, "Cornelius." And he stared at him in terror and said, "What is it, Lord?" And he said to him, "Your prayers and your alms have ascended as a memorial before God."



"...Your prayers and your alms have ascended as a memorial before God."

Now that will mess with some folk's theology.


12 posted on 04/16/2005 6:18:48 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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