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To: thePilgrim; PetroniusMaximus; GLENNS; RnMomof7; HarleyD; Frumanchu; suzyjaruki; Alex Murphy; ...
I don't think he completely understands what we mean when we say Total Depravity...

Here's a link to a short article on man's carnal nature (worth posting on its own):

"Saved By Grace – What Can a Dead Man Do?" by Dave Hatcher

"Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his." -- Romans 8:7-9

I'm not a fan of using the term "Common Grace" because I think it dilutes the singular and specific meaning and intent of the word Grace.

All men feel the sunshine on their faces; all men can taste the milk and honey of God's earth; all men can relate to their surroundings in a mututally-beneficial way. That is the fiber of carnal man.

But because of Adam's fall, carnal man is dead to God and cannot do anything God-pleasing unless and until God regenerates man's dead corpse into a spiritual living being in Christ.

It's either/or. We are either carnal man or spiritual man, ordained by God from before the foundation of the world. Our job as Christians is to gratefully preach the Gospel to all nations and races in order that those whom Christ came to gather may hear the Word and be saved by His grace alone. The Good Shepherd will lose none of His sheep. Yet like the thief on the cross, none of us knows the hour of our salvation.

"Man's mind is like a store [factory] of idolatry and superstition; so much so that if a man believes his own mind it is certain that he will forsake God and forge some idol in his own brain." -- JOHN CALVIN.

As Michael Horton wrote: "We cannot find God for the same reason that a thief can't find a police officer."

30 posted on 04/18/2005 10:34:10 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Ping to #30; your time-difference always has me confused. 8~)


31 posted on 04/18/2005 10:36:41 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Gamecock

Yeesh. MORE COFFEE...

Ping to #30.


32 posted on 04/18/2005 10:39:06 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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