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To: PetroniusMaximus; thePilgrim; GLENNS
"That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust." -- Matthew 5:45

All the world benefits from God's generous bounty, and all the world is instructed to sing His praises.

But saving grace, faith in Jesus Christ who took upon Himself the sins of the elect, was ordained by God from before the foundation of the world. None of the sheep whom Christ came to gather will be lost.

14 posted on 04/17/2005 12:39:20 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; PetroniusMaximus; thePilgrim; GLENNS; k2blader

*** All the world benefits from God's generous bounty, and all the world is instructed to sing His praises.***


Though I agree with much of what you've said (except the limited atonement part) I still don't see how statements of man's total depravity such as:

"This means that his nature is so thoroughly corrupted by sin that it is incapable of producing anything good. There is nothing which the sinner can do which is pleasing in the sight of God. "
http://www.prca.org/fivepoints/chapter1.html

... can be reconciled with the Biblical account of the widow, the centurion or Cornelius. All these people did things which received the approval of God prior to a conversion.


(One of the things I appreciate most about the Bible is that it winds up breaking most systematic theologies at some point or another. As sophisticated as our theology may become, we're still looking through a glass darkly.)


17 posted on 04/17/2005 6:35:30 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

BTTT


24 posted on 04/17/2005 6:17:40 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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