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To: Grut

Are you suggesting that the validity of his sacraments is questionable because of the enormity of his public and notorious scandal?

If so, what about the "validity" of his appointment to pastor the Basilica of St. Mary Major? Where do you draw the line? Does the crime have to be public and notorious, or could it be like the one Judas Iscariot committed in his heart when he left the upper room to go and betray Our Lord? If a silent mortal sin is sufficient to nullify the sacraments of priests, then who would ever know if they are receiving a "valid" sacrament?

We could go on and on with that one. For example, the bishop moves a priest guilty of pederasty ("pedophilia" is a media-confected misnomer) to a new place where he can persist in his crimes, then the pope moves the bishop away thus enabling his deviance to continue, and meanwhile, the pope who enabled the bishop to perpetrate corruption dies and is popularly acclaimed "a saint." Which level of crime is greater, the first, the second, or the third? Are all three actions equally "invalid" by dint of the associated notorious scandal? Does the society that makes acclamations of sainthood under such clouds of title lose its "validity" as a society??

On the other hand, if your comment was intended to draw attention to the separation of the power of the minister from the guilt (and just consequence) due to his crime, that's a whole other topic. Is every deviant prelate (or priest) above public scrutiny when his superior scuttles him away and reappoints him as if to excuse his defection?

Is every such case at least worthy of our disinterest, such that we would continue in our manifest error?


11 posted on 04/11/2005 12:26:42 PM PDT by donbosco74 (Sancte Padre Pio, ora pro nobis, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae, Amen.)
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To: donbosco74

I just was to reply to part of your argument. Even if a priest has a mortal sin on his soul, the Sacraments he preforms are still valid. Now, doing so creats another mortal sin for the priest but not for the people who recieve the Sacraments from the priests.

Even if the priest was not validly ordained (and thus not a priest) but gave the appearance to most people of being so, the Sacraments would not be valid Sacraments but God would still give the same graces to the laypeople because His graces are not constrained by Sacraments. So you don't have to worry about if your Confession or Wedding was valid, etc.


19 posted on 04/11/2005 4:27:26 PM PDT by ndkos
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