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To: Leo Carpathian; BrooklynGOP; Destro; A. Pole; MarMema; YoungCorps; OldCorps; chukcha; ...
A key ambition of Pope John Paul II, especially in the years just before his death, was to reunite Christianity’s divided churches.

The Catholics have been doing this, primarly by the sword, for the past 1000 years. The catholic invasions of Kieven Russ during the Mongol invasions, when the princes asked their western Christian brothers for help, is a prime example.

A big job for the next Pope. Problem is that Ukrainian/Russian Orthodox Church got infested with KGB operatives parading as priests being tool of Soviet Oppressors

Something you guys will never understand: we Orthodox do not wish to be under the Papal Yoke. No more so then the protestants.

12 posted on 04/11/2005 8:27:23 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: jb6
The Catholics have been doing this, primarly by the sword, for the past 1000 years. The catholic invasions of Kieven Russ during the Mongol invasions, when the princes asked their western Christian brothers for help, is a prime example.

Of course Orthodox people never invaded any country / sarcasm.

Something you guys will never understand: we Orthodox do not wish to be under the Papal Yoke. No more so then the protestants.

Who said that this is the aim? For Sure not John Paul II. He was wanted establish good relations with Russian Orthodox church like with every religion. What is wrong here, some people have sick obsession of Catholic expansionism. Some people should notice that we have XXI century!
17 posted on 04/11/2005 8:47:56 AM PDT by Lukasz
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To: jb6; MarMema; sionnsar
Something you guys will never understand: we Orthodox do not wish to be under the Papal Yoke.

As an Evangelical Orthodox Lutheran, I hope that we can someday have a reunited, undivided Orthodox Catholic Church, for all orthodox Christians of the Great Tradition. In that Church, the Bishop of Rome would be first among equals (as he was in the original undivided Church), NOT a monarch or dictator. And America, as a mature Christian country, should have its own patriarch. (Even without such as degree of unity, Orthodox America should have its own patriarch.)

In that case, we would not be directly under the Pope, and being under the Pope as the first among equals would be a blessing!

22 posted on 04/11/2005 9:32:10 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: jb6; All

life is life "religion" is "religion" G-D is G-D G-D do know good persons evil persons I do "respect"persons "religion"good G-D do respect persons now this is for you all

http://www.oca.org
http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article7053.asp
http://www.saintignatiuschurch.org/timeline.html
http://www.cin.org/eastern.html
http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article7102.asp

http://home.it.net.au/~jgrapsas/pages/Ecumenical_Councils.htm
http://www.piar.hu/councils
http://www.answers.com/topic/east-west-schism


40 posted on 04/11/2005 7:05:33 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen."Totus Tuus!!!!)
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To: jb6
The catholic invasions of Kieven Russ during the Mongol invasions, when the princes asked their western Christian brothers for help, is a prime example.

It's incredible that you keep repeating this lie. Russian princes were ALLIED to the Mongols.

44 posted on 04/12/2005 6:06:38 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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