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To: Marguerite
And also anyone who converts to Judaism.

OK then how many of these converts are granted citizenship in Israel? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the sum total is somewhere around zero.

Cela va sans dire, your whole post reeks of that.

Not sure what "Cela va sans dire" means, but let me guess:

"When a reasoned response fails me I resort to slander".

Am I close?

15 posted on 04/05/2005 5:00:59 PM PDT by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Christe eleison †)
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To: AAABEST

"Not sure what "Cela va sans dire" means"

Use a dictionary, you know what "dictionary" means, don't you?


16 posted on 04/05/2005 5:08:58 PM PDT by Marguerite
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To: AAABEST
Not sure what "Cela va sans dire" means, but let me guess:

It translates, "This goes without saying", which I disagree with. You are no more anti-Semitic than St. Peter was an anti-Semite.

18 posted on 04/05/2005 5:17:37 PM PDT by Grey Ghost II
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To: AAABEST
OK then how many of these converts are granted citizenship in Israel? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the sum total is somewhere around zero.

You must be referring to converts in the Reform congregations, or non-recongised denominations such as Messianic Jews. Converts to Judaism are automatically granted full Israeli citizenship. This is one of the distinctive features of the Israeli state, and a complaint on the part of the Palestinians - someone in a foreign land, who undergoes a religious conversion, has a right to citizenship and property, which a person born there does not have.

However, the only form of conversion recognised is that of the Orthodox Jewish authorities. Reform and Conservative converts have to undergo an extra ritual - although that is presently under challenge.

About a year ago, a whole tribe of Indians in Peru were converted to Judaism. They were taken to live on a settlement in the West Bank, and given land. They are looked at by the Arabs with a very cynical eye.

20 posted on 04/05/2005 6:09:47 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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