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[IMHO there is only one tool for enforcement by the archbishops, and that's the one they're trying hard to avoid: expulsion. --sionnsar]
1 posted on 04/03/2005 7:42:14 AM PDT by sionnsar
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2 posted on 04/03/2005 7:42:46 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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Agree. This article reads like the conservatives are so passive and there is little hope. ECUSA needs to be expelled. The traditional diocese and parishes need to fight for every inch, including litigating over church property. The current church leadership would like nothing better than if the conservatives simply picked up and left. The ECUSA would then become the heretical, gay, liberal, new age church.


3 posted on 04/03/2005 8:07:08 AM PDT by Truth29
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Haven't they already suffered enough by being known as the Church of the Gay Bishop? It's got to be painful to endure such ridicule.


4 posted on 04/03/2005 8:17:18 AM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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Those attending the two-day "From Surviving to Thriving" conference...

Seems like the liberals are pushing things from 'thriving to surviving', at this rate.

For instance, he said, conservative clergy at six Connecticut parishes are being threatened with defrocking by their bishop.

Does anyone know the six? They, specifically, need Prayer.

6 posted on 04/03/2005 8:52:40 AM PDT by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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he and five other conservative Episcopal leaders were singled out by Presiding Bishop Frank Griswold as being "evil."

Good one Frank, way find common ground. I'm just waiting for the day there's a schism, and you'll have accomplished that single handedly.

11 posted on 04/03/2005 10:47:51 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: sionnsar

Same happening within the Anglican Church of Canada, as we all know. Two or three parishes that walked away from the tyranny of Ingham in New Westminster have given up on trying to keep their church buildings. However they seem much happier in new premises and Ingham has the task of keeping empty churches pretending to be full of people.


12 posted on 04/03/2005 11:51:11 AM PDT by plushaye (President Bush: W-2-4-4!! Thank-you voters of America. Thank you GOD for choosing him!)
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To: sionnsar

As a Reformed Christian, my general impression has been that if church is going downhill, but tolerates orthodoxy, it is permissible to stay and fight. But if they start persecuting orthdoxy, get the heck out. It has ceased to be a church.


18 posted on 04/03/2005 5:42:16 PM PDT by geoffrobinson
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