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To: siunevada

A real honest translation would really help the Novus Ordo.
The collects and any other changeable prayer in particular are wretched compared to the weekly translations in the Wanderer. Next, turn the priest around to face the Tabernacle which should be in the center on top of the altar.


2 posted on 03/10/2005 3:49:09 PM PST by Piers-the-Ploughman
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To: Piers-the-Ploughman
A real honest translation would really help the Novus Ordo.

The examples cited in this article seem to be pretty straight translations:

Sacred Language Restored

3 posted on 03/10/2005 4:15:40 PM PST by siunevada
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To: Piers-the-Ploughman

I think the revised translations are definitely a step in the right direction.

Unlike some of my fellow TLM brethren, and you can check this out on my home page here, I have strategy of two fronts to restore liturgical tradition. Obviously, theological, moral, and spiritual battles need to be fought too, but my thing is liturgy, so here's a game plan I formulated based on ideas that have been floating around:

1. Immediate recognition of the TLM as having an equal status in the Latin Rite. Any priest can therefore celebrate this Mass anywhere at any time. Some will arge this already exists, but I am saying that this needs to be explicitly stated again from Rome, with no clauses about how the diocesan bishop needs to be consulted first. TLM only parishes should continue and expand, and likewise every NO parish should have at least one TLM celebrated every day. All newly or soon to be ordained priests should be trained in the TLM immediately. Offer the same opportunity for older priests as well, but do not force them.

2. Tolerance of the Novus Ordo for 50 years. I say 50 years because that will ensure that most of the NO entrenched faithful will be gone by then, and I firmly believe that uprooting their liturgical life, despite its deficiencies, would do more harm than good.

3. Reform the Reform. During the 50 years of tolerance, measures need to be taken to reform the NO so that it practically mirrors the Tridentine by the time it is extinguished. Do this slowly! This would include such revisions as translations, injecting more Latin and chant back into the common celebration of the NO, eventually mandating the Ad Orientem position and Communion on the tongue and kneeling, and gradually revising the actual texts of the Mass (esp. the Offertory) to reflect the Tridentine.

4. Soon into the 50 years, Rome needs to produce a universal calendar that would unite the liturgical years of both the TLM and NO. This calendar should essentially be the 1962 Calendar plus the additions of newly canonized saints. This would in effect bring the TLM to date and once again the Tridentine will progress as a living entity in the present as it always did before 1962. How about the Tridentine Missal of 2010?


27 posted on 03/14/2005 1:10:01 PM PST by jrny (Tenete traditionem quam tradidi vobis)
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