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To: Mershon

So your view (not what I was taught at all) is that all non- Catholics are condemned to hell?


55 posted on 02/14/2005 4:28:40 PM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: NJ Neocon

For a more recent example of what the teaching of the Church is on other Christian denominations, read "Dominus Iesus", which was a document published in 2000.


56 posted on 02/14/2005 5:31:43 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: NJ Neocon
There's an entry in the modern (1992, I think) Roman Catholic Catechism..that covers this...I'll get the qoute later...but in a nutshell..it re-iterates the perennial teaching of the Church and adds a nuanced exception for people who had never heard of the Roman Catholic Church....I'd say any American over the age of 18, it is safe to say, does not fit into this catagory.

Liberal Catholics who tell you that everybody is saved are lying to you about what the Church teaches....it seems these are the same people who educated you....this teaching scandalizes them in the same way people were scandalized when Jesus said "unless you eat my body and drink my blood....."

57 posted on 02/15/2005 6:21:13 AM PST by Pio (There is no Salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church)
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To: NJ Neocon
I take it all back. I just read "Dominus Iesus" and it absolutely contradicts everything Mershon posted from the past 1800 years.

This document from 2000 is talking about a different church which does conform to what you were taught in high school. My apologies..I had not realized the extent to which the New Catholic Church (established 1963) rejectes the Traditional Catholic Church (established 33 AD).

According to New Rome you are good where you are at.

I have updated my tagline accordingly.

58 posted on 02/15/2005 6:42:39 AM PST by Pio (There was no Salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church)
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To: NJ Neocon; Pio

"So your view (not what I was taught at all) is that all non- Catholics are condemned to hell?"

I affirm what the Church teaches regarding salvation. The sentence you affirm above is NOT Church teaching. Church teaching, as De Fide, of the Faith, is "Outside the Church, there is no salvation."

There is hope for everyone up until the point of their death, to convert their hearts to God, ask for forgiveness of their sins, and correspond to the grace He gives them. If they are NOT saved, it will be their fault, not God's.

"Outside the Church, there is no salvation" does not equate to "all non-Catholics are condemned to hell."


60 posted on 02/15/2005 6:59:13 AM PST by Mershon
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To: NJ Neocon

"So your view"

By the way, it has nothing to with "MY" personal view. It has to do with the authoritative teaching of the Church. It matters little that you were not given an authentic Catholic education. That happens a lot nowadays. I quoted you from authoritative Church documents. It has nothing to do with MY preferences or views.


61 posted on 02/15/2005 7:00:53 AM PST by Mershon
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