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In his 2004 Easter message, [Bishop] Warner said: "Growth in the future is going to be based on moving away from a racist hierarchical church system to a church with all cultures, all ethnicity and what I like to identify as a 'wholearchy' rather than the old system of hierarchy known as patriarchy."

[There may not be much in this story for those on the list not in Western Washington, but it really highlights the state of ECUSA's Diocese of Olympia here. When I moved here from the Diocese of El Camino Real (named in the story) over twenty years ago, it was already in bad shape. --sionnsar]

1 posted on 01/24/2005 7:12:58 AM PST by sionnsar
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2 posted on 01/24/2005 7:13:27 AM PST by sionnsar († trad-anglican.faithweb.com † || Iran Azadi || Kiev County: http://www.soundpolitics.com)
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To: sionnsar

"“It doesn’t just happen that 2 million people move into a state, buy a house and then ask, ‘Where do I go to church?’"

Sure it does!


5 posted on 01/24/2005 8:56:56 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: sionnsar

The paternal Episcopalian side of my family knows her father, Bishop Rivera, very well. Nedi's aunt was the best language (Spanish) teacher I ever had. I believe they are of Puerto Rican descent.


8 posted on 01/24/2005 12:08:59 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: sionnsar

Is there some way would could get an addition to the Windsor Report stating that using terms like "wholearchy" is a grave affront to Anglican unity?


9 posted on 01/24/2005 4:26:28 PM PST by good_fight
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To: sionnsar

When the whole farce about the selection of a new Bishop Assisting began, I predicted that Mizz Nedi was the slam-dunk favorite. Warner is so predictable. In no particular order, he prefers his clergy to be: female or homosexual or Hispanic. Nothing else really matters. These traits trump any shortcomings in theology, church doctrine, or moral fiber. In Nedi he hit the Daily Double & although she's straight, she hails from the homosexual Mecca - San Francisco - & is likely "sympathetic" to the homosexual agenda that is presently gutting ECUSA.

In a Skagit County ordination two years ago Warner hit the Trifecta...the Rev. Jo Beecher is a lesbian living in a "committed relationship" with a Hispanic woman & their 2 adopted children. Although Mizz Beecher is not racially Hispanic, she lived in Central America as a child & is fluent in Spanish. She gets bonus points for having a Hispanic same-sex "partner," of course. Mizz Beecher has been charged with building a new Hispanic Ministry in Skagit County & was given a fat Diocesan grant to do just that. This, in spite of the fact that Barna Research claims that less than 1% of the Hispanic population in the U.S. attends a Baptist or mainline Protestant Church (which includes the Episcopal Church). The vast majority (if they attend church at all) are Roman Catholic, according to Barna. Consquently, Mizz Beecher's ministry is focused on the migrant farmworkers who, like the bums & vagrants at the Union Gospel Mission in downtown Seattle, will endure a bit of preaching from a different church group every day of the week - so long as it comes along with a charitable handout. Don't get me wrong. I'm totally in favor of the Church engaging in purely charitable forms of outreach. But let's be honest about it & not refer to it as church planting or saving souls. I am not aware of a single Baptism having been performed by the Vicar of La Eglesia de la Ressurection over the past two years.

As a side note: Mizz Nedi replaces the retiring Bishop Assisting, Bp. Sanford "Sandy" Hampton, who is quite willing to sacrifice the plain meaning of scripture & the historical doctrine of the Anglican faith for the comfort of his lesbian grand-daughter. It should come as no surprise that he voted in favor of Vicky Gene's consecration as Bishop.


12 posted on 01/24/2005 11:07:07 PM PST by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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