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To: DBeers
"You seem to deny both the Church Christ founded and Apostolic Tradition contained within the Church Christ founded? How can obedience to the Church Christ founded and adherance to Apostolic Tradition be blasphemous or deny salvation through Christ as Christ taught and intended?"

I deny that the church Christ founded is the Roman Catholic Church. The church Christ founded is His Body. He is the Head of His church. I am therefore obedient to Christ, the Head of the church. Not the Pope. I believe it is blasphemy to say "he who is not with the Pope is not with God, and who desires to be with God must be with the Pope." Christ said HE is the way and the truth and the life. Christ is not the Pope. To say the Pope is the way to God is to deny Christ's words. Can you explain why that isn't true?

84 posted on 01/21/2005 1:41:25 PM PST by Rokke
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To: Rokke
To say the Pope is the way to God is to deny Christ's words. Can you explain why that isn't true?

Yes -because it incorrect to interdict the Pope between an individual and Christ in regards to salvation. If one accepts salvation through Christ as sound teaching -why does one not accept the same source of sound teaching regarding the One Church Christ established and the authoritative authentic teachers he put in place? One Church with authentic teaching authority comprised of both revelation and Apostolic Tradition.

Why suggest that Christ's Church and His Apostles' teaching authority precludes salvation -maybe this is the only way of keeping your argument from falling apart?

Research Apostolic Tradition -then look around and ask yourself -where is the Church and Apostolic Tradition located?

Rather than interpret with an end in mind or repeat what you are told -do the reserach work yourself with an open mind and Faith leading if you really want to find Truth.

87 posted on 01/21/2005 2:14:40 PM PST by DBeers
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