[DBeers]

Your assertions do not require "learned (Catholic) theologians" -simple logical deduction more than adequately addresses your assertion. It is obvious objective fact that YOU are arguing against something that you suggest is not historically sound. Based alone upon the the fact that your argument solely relies upon arbitrarily expunging ALL Catholic historical theologians it necessarily follows that your argument is historically unsound and but mere censorship of all that does not bolster your argument.

I can do nothing for you if reality is unpleasing. Fraternally I do again state that your dissent and are objectively dubious and fatally flawed. ;) As stated -this is nothing new -historically many have and will dissent and challenge the Church -none can succeed...

Believe your error all you want -what is your incessant need to have followers on your wide path? You do know that Christ founded one Church and Truth is not consensus -that you find yourself outside the Church and demand the Church come to you should be a wakeup call...

[Phsstpok]

lots of noise, but still no actual logical point that I got "wrong." No fact that I stated has been even MENTIONED by anyone, mearly hysterical SHOUTING that I AM ILLOGICAL. Please, pray tell, where does my logic fail? What logical point do you disagree with. Cite ONE. That's all I ask. No one who has attacked me (yes, ATTACKED) has been honest enough to quote anything that I posted and say "this is wrong," let alone to say how it is wrong.

I am now done with this. I do not go more than 3 rounds with anyone who fails to do anything but whine, scream and accuse.

Facts are such inconvenient things for all too many people, even here on FR.

I wish you well in your obviously deeply held belief in your Church. I hope that your Church brings you comfort in this world, for it will do nothing for you in the next.

I had a pithy ending that I have now dropped.

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