The Papacy - Where Peter is, There is the Church

Catholic Legate ^ | September 23, 2004 | Father M. Piotrowski

[ArrogantBustard]

A viking "assault cat" would be ein sturmkatze.

[NYer]

My purpose in posting this thread was to provide the archaelogical background on St. Peter's. How unfortunate that some guests have used it as an opportunity to bash the Catholic Church. Catholic freepers show respect for those from other religious denominations. Yet those who profess to be christians, use certain threads to launch salvos at catholic freepers. Perhaps you mothers never taught you proper christian manners: "If you don't have something nice to say, then don't say anything at all."

[Invincibly Ignorant]

I said it before and I'll say it again, Why do we never see the Catholic Bashers "ministering" to the Jews on one of Alouette, Sjackson or Yonif's threads?? Catholics are fair game.

And why do we never see Catholics with persecution complexes ministering at all?

[Invincibly Ignorant]

My purpose in posting this thread was to provide the archaelogical background on St. Peter's.

Whoop-dee-do.

Catholic freepers show respect for those from other religious denominations.

That was funny. Tell me another one.

Yet those who profess to be christians, use certain threads to launch salvos at catholic freepers.

And Catholics don't do the same. Boy are you naive. Besides, didn't know I professed to be a Christian.

Perhaps you mothers never taught you proper christian manners: "If you don't have something nice to say, then don't say anything at all."

Its called disagreement. I know you have a hisotry of getting that word confused with bashing. Sorry we exercise free speech in here.

[NYer]

Perhaps you can improve your status in the forum from "invincibly ignorant" to "arguably savvy", by educating yourself at this thread. You can then progress to:

The Early Church Fathers

and, of course ...

Catechism of the Catholic Church

By then, you will be ready for ...

Coming Home .

[Invincibly Ignorant]

to convert go here: http://www.convertingtojudaism.com/?OVRAW=jewish%20conversion&OVKEY=jewish%20conversion&OVMTC=standard

[NYer]

Thanks for the link! Shalom!

[DBeers]

Just wondering. Are you what's called a "Monotheist Messianic"?

Are you what's called "invincibly ignorant yet rhetorically argumentative"?

[Religion Moderator]

It's time for you to leave this thread. Let me know if you need any help.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

It's time for you to leave this thread. Let me know if you need any help.

I'd seriously like to know what the problem is.

[Religion Moderator]

You are the problem. Please stay off this thread. Thank you.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

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[Mark in the Old South]

"Upon this Rock I will built my Church"

Did not Christ himself declare Simon, Peter, which means rock?

Did not God himself instruct Moses to strike the "rock" to refresh the people of Israel? Twice?

Looks like that Church was quite literally built on top of that "Rock"

[netmilsmom]

>>And why do we never see Catholics with persecution complexes ministering at all?<<

Because we believe in free will and we know we are right. It isn't considered a complex when someone is bashing your beliefs, just fact.
BTW, why don't you minister on the Jewish threads?

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "My purpose in posting this thread was to provide the archaeological background on St. Peter's. How unfortunate that some guests have used it as an opportunity to bash the Catholic Church"

Perhaps I can help explain the reasons for the attacks. The archaeological evidence is a threat to long held and cherished views.

[NYer]

Thank you Mark and enjoy your visit to the site!

[OLD REGGIE]

"...Furthermore, if you look at the context, Jesus had just changed Simon's name to "rock," as a sure foundation on which to build His kingdom..."

If you can't get this right how can we put any faith in your exegesis? Jesus named him "Peter" the first time He met him.

John 1:
[40] One of the two who heard John speak, and followed him, was Andrew, Simon Peter's brother.
[41] He first found his brother Simon, and said to him, "We have found the Messiah" (which means Christ).
[42] He brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him, and said, "So you are Simon the son of John? You shall be called Cephas" (which means Peter).

Further, He called him "Simon, Son of John" the last time, recorded in Scripture, He spoke to him. Hardly "Rock"!

[OLD REGGIE]

My purpose in posting this thread was to provide the archaelogical background on St. Peter's. How unfortunate that some guests have used it as an opportunity to bash the Catholic Church. Catholic freepers show respect for those from other religious denominations. Yet those who profess to be christians, use certain threads to launch salvos at catholic freepers. Perhaps you mothers never taught you proper christian manners: "If you don't have something nice to say, then don't say anything at all."

It is not "Catholic Bashing" when you are called on a falsehood. You tell a story and others have a right to tell a different story.

The most precious of Peter's bones found in the Graffiti Wall are the 29 fragments of the Apostle's skull. Note: the 29 pieces of Peter's skull found in the Grafitti Wall are not to be confused with Peter's other skull, which is stored in the Cathedral of St. John Lateran.

How many skulls did Peter have?

[netmilsmom]

"Those who visit the Basilica on pilgrimage visit it not just because it is the head of all churches and the Pope’s cathedral. The wooden altar on which St Peter celebrated Mass while in Rome is inside the main altar. The heads of Sts Peter and Paul were once believed to be inside busts above the main altar"

You see my friend, once believed is very much different from is now. Besides, skulls have been found in pieces. Nothing says it was found in one piece. (From this site... http://www.frtommylane.com/homilies/ years_abc/dedication_basilica_john_lateran.htm)