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When the Roll Is Called O'er Yonder: Primates will consider communion's fate in February
VirtueOnline-News ^ | 12/28/2004 | David Virtue

Posted on 12/28/2004 8:39:24 AM PST by sionnsar


Dromantine Retreat Center, where the Anglican
Communion Primates will meet in February


In less than two months 38 Primates (Archbishops) - leaders of some 78 million Anglicans worldwide - will gather in Ireland to consider the fate of the Anglican Communion.

For many North American Episcopalians and Anglicans it will be the most decisive moment in their personal ecclesiastical journeys. From the Primates' decisions, hundreds of clergy and thousands of Episcopalians and Canadian Anglicans will decide what they must do with respect to their futures. The fate of tens of thousands of Episcopalians, including clergy and whole dioceses rests in the hands of these uber purple.

Three possibilities present themselves. The first is that the Primates will do nothing to shake the status quo. The second is that they will announce a formal split and the Anglican Communion will have two separate spiritual leaders - Rowan Williams will, in all likelihood lead the Western liberal alliance and Peter Akinola the Archbishop of Nigeria will lead the majority of orthodox Anglicans. A third option is an internal split where orthodox archbishops will not recognize or speak to revisionist archbishops while still recognizing Rowan Williams as the titular head of the communion. What you will in fact have is a loose federation of provinces held together under a broad Anglican umbrella, but Anglican in name only, no longer a full undivided communion.

Frank Griswold the Episcopal Church's Presiding Bishop has become the lightning rod primate around which the Windsor Report and pansexual behavior has galvanized.

And Griswold will discover that to "inhabit multiple realities" a favorite expression of his, will not play well with the majority of Primates who think that such persons are usually found in lunatic asylums beating their heads against padded cell walls waiting for their daily needle of sanity.

When it is all over, Griswold could be faced with a single reality - that he will no longer be recognized as the leader of the U.S. Episcopal Church, that that role will be given to Pittsburgh Bishop Robert Duncan leader of the Anglican Communion Network of some dozen or more orthodox Episcopal bishops. (Duncan was robed at the recent CAPA bishops meeting in Lagos in front of several hundred African bishops).

The Primates will announce that they will no longer be in formal communion with Griswold and treat him in exactly the same way four orthodox primates treated Pennsylvania Bishop Charles E. Bennison when he turned up at a private gathering to inaugurate the Anglican Relief & Development Fund in Philadelphia recently.

The four removed themselves from the main hall where Bennison wandered around talking to any who would talk to him, while they parked themselves in another room and refused to see, speak or have anything to do with him.

It was a major Primatial snub of telling proportions and it could presage what Griswold could expect when all the primates gather in Ireland in February, if what this writer has been told is true.

One hopes that the Dromantine Retreat Centre outside Belfast where the Primates are expected to gather has enough rooms to accommodate the breakaway groups.

If this happens, and it is a very likely scenario, then Rowan Williams will be doing shuttle diplomacy shuffling back and forth between the groups of archbishops trying to broker a deal to keep the communion together. It will require enormous skill, along with patience, which I am told he has much of.

Another scenario, and the least likeliest, is that the Primates will gather together, discuss the Windsor Report, accept, one more time, Griswold's "regret" for the pain he has caused for participating in the Robinson consecration, but no repentance for sin, because in his mind no sin has been committed, then they all take holy communion together and go home.

The other possibility is that a formal split is announced after several days of talks with the orthodox archbishops heading off to London and Buckingham Palace to announce to the Queen that it is all over and that Dr. Rowan Williams is no longer their titular head. This is another scenario that also seems unlikely but should not be entirely ruled out. Playing the predictability game is dangerous at best. But after what this writer observed in Philadelphia recently, nothing, absolutely nothing should be ruled out. There has never been a semi-public occasion where four primates so blatantly and publicly snubbed a fellow bishop whom they regard as heretical.

But the truly wild card in these primatial gatherings is the growing preeminence of Nigerian Primate Peter Akinola. He has emerged as the evangelical colossus who bestrides Africa with more titles than Rowan Williams and who poses the single biggest threat to any future cohesion of the Anglican Communion.

If Rowan Williams has the power, and Frank Griswold has the money, then Peter Akinola has the moral and spiritual authority, and history teaches us that at the end of the day the latter always triumphs, always. Jesus triumphed over Caesar. 2,000 years later we still worship Jesus and we call our dogs Caesar. Williams' power over the Anglican Communion was given to him by a secular state, the 600 or so Anglican bishops of the communion did not vote for him. Griswold obtained his primacy through the House of Bishops and became instant heir to the church's trust funds and endowments - money which he uses to manipulate the Global South and which they now reject.

Akinola has been and continues to be the single most outspoken critic of Western Anglicanism in general and Griswold in particular. (This is not to ignore equally strong statements made by Archbishops Venables, Gomez, Malango, Nzimbi and Orombi.)

When the Windsor Report was first issued Akinola said this: "We have been asked to express regret for our actions and "affirm our desire to remain in the Communion". How patronizing! We will not be intimidated. In the absence of any signs of repentance and reform from those who have torn the fabric of our Communion, and while there is continuing oppression of those who uphold the Faith, we cannot forsake our duty to provide care and protection for those who cry out for our help."

Then he blew the steeple right off St. Paul's with this one: "The Bible says that two cannot walk together unless they are agreed. The report rightly observes that if the 'call to halt' is ignored 'then we shall have to begin to learn to walk apart'. The Episcopal Church and Diocese of New Westminster are already walking alone on this and if they do not repent and return to the fold, they will find that they are all alone. They will have broken the Anglican Communion." Thems fightin' words.

He has blasted Western liberal dominance by a church with diminishing followers, a bankrupt morality and even less theology. The Windsor Report confirmed his worst suspicions that the Anglican Communion is being run by white Western liberals who have the money and who want to retain the power. And to ratchet up the pain he has made numerous visits to the U.S. and has now started his own Nigerian Anglican Communion on these shores in defiance of calls not to cross diocesan boundaries.

Furthermore The Nigerian Primate has made it clear to this writer that he will not tolerate endless calls for more process and talks with the Communion's instruments of unity looking endlessly at a report that brings no finality to the apostasy and heresies of the Episcopal Church.

Delay and prevarication have been the favored tactics of the Episcopal Church leadership and Akinola knows that talk of 'reconciliation' (another much favored word of Griswold) means, at the end of the process, nothing more than capitulation. And he will have none of it.

Endless talk, and with much being made of "process" is the favored tactic of Frank Griswold when he speaks about the Windsor Report. But all he is doing is playing for time and his pressing for "process" in analyzing the Windsor Report is like beating a dead horse in the vague hope that if you hit it often enough and long enough it will stagger to its feet and make off down the track to win the Derby.

Griswold told Akinola to his face that he would never ever back down on the normalization of homosexual practice in The Episcopal Church and it will be upheld at all levels of the church's ecclesiastical life; furthermore all talk of a moratorium would never be adhered too. Never.

(Akinola described what took place when the Primates met in Lambeth last October. There was a time in the meeting when there seemed to be no way forward. Some of the primates were in tears, Akinola went up to Griswold and said to him, "you have seen what your actions have done, please stand back, back off before it is too late. Griswold refused). VirtueOnline reported on this event earlier this year in November. You can read the full story here:
http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1705

If Rowan Williams can reconcile that one he should be given a Nobel Peace Prize and sent off to the Middle East to reconcile the Israelis and Palestinians. Another peace prize awaits him if he succeeds.

When the House of Bishops meet in Utah next month nothing substantially will change, absent the dozen or so Network bishops and it is a clean sweep for ECUSA's revisionist and moderate bishops to carry on with things just the way they are. This gathering of Purple like most gatherings are colossal wastes of money and time to resolve absolutely nothing, because nothing will change, and any purple shirt who dare raises his/her voice in opposition to the zeitgeist would be shut down immediately. Better still bury it all in small group discussions where truth is buried amidst stories of personal anguish and gay pain.

The other truth is that Griswold does not want finality, because finality means that decisions will be made that could adversely affect him. 'Process' the Windsor Report to death, but under no circumstance reach a common mind because a common mind can never be reached and Griswold is smart enough to know that.

Furthermore the Global South bishops do not trust the Anglican Consultative Council to wait till June for yet another "process for reception" which they view as yet another stalling tactic.

A third scenario when the Primates meet and possibly the most likely, is that there will be an informal or internal split, (broadly hinted at by Uganda Primate Henry Luke Orombi when I interviewed him in Philadelphia recently), but that the big umbrella of Anglicanism will somehow hold together. A sort of in the Anglican Communion house there are many mansions notion with Griswold, Eames et al in one room of the mansion sipping chardonnay and eating brie discussing pluriformity, while the main part of the mansion is gripped with evangelical fervor, church planting and exhortations to righteous living.

What that looks like goes something like this. The Global South orthodox archbishops, some 22 or more, will formally turn their back on Frank Griswold. That is to say they will not eat with him, speak to him, be in the same room with him and definitely not take Holy Communion from him or with him. Griswold will, of course, shed a few crocodile tears about the pain of rejection he feels from some of his fellow primates, preach his mantra of inclusion and diversity, but at the end of the day all he really cares about is staying in communion with Rowan Williams, and that will be enough. Ultimately he won't care, his place in the Communion is still safe and secure and so is the ECUSA.

The orthodox Primates will have achieved their objective by making it publicly known that Griswold is beyond both human (and presumably divine) redemption and that the Episcopal Church is lost except for the few remaining orthodox faithful.

As Archbishop Orombi told this writer, as the bishops meet only once every ten years it won't matter much and Griswold will be gone. In the broad expanse of Canterbury University one can avoid heretical bishops. Perhaps.

But this begs a number of questions. The Global South archbishops still meet annually and many have said they cannot and will not stay in communion with someone who remains in communion with Griswold, so will they, can they, stay in communion with Dr. Williams? Only time will tell. Will Williams himself tolerate presiding over two separate Eucharist services in Ireland if they all will not take communion from him if Griswold is present? It also begs the question if unity is more important than truth.

Will there be a formal acknowledgment in Ireland that Bishop Robert Duncan is now the official head of the Episcopal Church, unelected but recognized by the vast majority of the Anglican Communion's bishops. Will that in fact constitute a Third Province which Forward in Faith UK and Forward in Faith USA desperately want?

And if Duncan is the newly robed and recognized ECUSA leader by the global south bishops then it must be stated openly and publicly with bells and whistles, a formal press conference and more. Such recognition of course raises legal questions for the orthodox in The Episcopal Church? Does this give fleeing parishes who want to retain their properties the legal edge they have been looking for when it comes to the Denis Canon?

Could six parishes, say in the Diocese of Connecticut, go to court and tell his honor, that the Episcopal Church as it is now constituted is not recognized by the vast majority of the Anglican Communion and therefore it has separated itself from the main branch of Anglicanism and that with the recognition of Duncan as Presiding Bishop the properties are no longer under ECUSA's ecclesiastical or legal domain.

Certainly it is worth arguing in court over. If the ECUSA has isolated itself and a de facto schism is already in place, then somehow that has to be recognized legally to provide a safe place for fleeing orthodox clergy in dioceses like Florida, Texas, California and more. The Episcopal Church is still a hierarchical church it just has a different avenue to get to the top.

If nothing happens more resignations will follow, parishes and priests will change jurisdictions, more lawsuits filed for properties, and angry revisionist bishops will discover, with new intensity, the meaning of "no" from orthodox clergy who will not yield to their apostate views on morals and doctrine. They will discover that the flip side of the gospel is law and it will be applied. Many will learn that Griswold's field "beyond good and evil" with Sufi the Rumi is in fact a courtroom where right and wrong will be determined by a judge with less mystic leanings.

But if the Primates meet and it is clear that an informal schism is in place (formal schism defined as a split with a number of Primates crossing the Irish Sea to Buckingham Palace to inform her majesty that it is over), then that must translate into protection for the Episcopal Church's orthodox who are being beaten down by revisionist bishops, the Via Media crowd, uber revisionist bishops like Shaw, Bennison, Creighton, Chane and sodomists like the Integrity crowd.

After all how much more are the orthodox supposed to take? The Network must be given not only ecclesiastical teeth by Global South archbishops but legal teeth that will stand up in court. If it doesn’t then the Network and AAC are made irrelevant and orthodox parishes will continue to drift away to the AMIA or come under Global South primates with a lot of pain over property fights and more.

Perhaps the first test of Dr. Williams' skills is what he will do with the Diocese of Recife whose bishop, Robinson Cavilcanti has cried out to him for protection against the revisionist inroads of Archbishop Glauco Soares de Lima the 'matador' Primate of Brazil who wants to gore Cavilcanti out of existence. Williams will have a first hand opportunity to apply his diplomatic skills and address that directly when the Brazilian Archbishop drops into Belfast in February.

But one thing that is not on the table when the Primates meet is simply to do nothing and hope that it will all work out or 'muddle through' as the British so often opine. There is no muddling through any more. Decisions will be made in February that will affect the shape of the Anglican Communion forever, and it is the hopes and prayers of hundreds of thousands of orthodox Anglicans on the North American continent that those actions will translate into real action and offer them a haven of hope amidst the wreckage of a dying Western Anglican church.


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To: Mershon
Pure ecumenism obligates a Catholic to tell the truth.

Nothing obligates a Catholic to be uncharitable, which is the only way that your initial comment can be described, your feigned remorse notwithstanding.

21 posted on 12/28/2004 12:11:01 PM PST by trad_anglican
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To: trad_anglican

I am sincerely sorry you have interpreted it that way.

I guess Leo XIII's encyclical and Catholic teaching is "uncharitable" as well, right?

But then again, the "lamb without spot," of which the Virgin Mary and Immaculate Conception, Mother of the Church, without wrinkle or stain, is the Mother, cannot be uncharitable by definition, can it?


22 posted on 12/28/2004 12:19:48 PM PST by Mershon
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To: sionnsar

I'm not familiar with the Anglicans' church structure. What's to prevent this body from proclaiming an official position and offering to extend communion to any parish which accepts it?


23 posted on 12/28/2004 12:27:21 PM PST by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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To: Mershon
I guess Leo XIII's encyclical and Catholic teaching is "uncharitable" as well, right?

I wasn't commenting on the encycilcal. I was commenting on the uncharitableness of your remark and the transparency of your "regret."

But then again, the "lamb without spot," of which the Virgin Mary and Immaculate Conception, Mother of the Church, without wrinkle or stain, is the Mother, cannot be uncharitable by definition, can it?

If you are referring to the Church in this question, my answer is yes, it is quite possible for the Church (militant) to be uncharitable.

24 posted on 12/28/2004 12:42:29 PM PST by trad_anglican
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To: trad_anglican

You believe in the Church militant? How about the Church suffering? How about the pilgrim Church? How about the people of God?

By the way, the Church is not divided. It is one. The Church suffering and Church triumphant are all part of one Church, "the bride of the lamb without spot."

Have a blessed Feast of the Holy Innocents!


25 posted on 12/28/2004 12:44:49 PM PST by Mershon
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To: trad_anglican

You believe in the Church militant? How about the Church suffering? How about the pilgrim Church? How about the people of God?

By the way, the Church is not divided. It is one. The Church suffering and Church triumphant are all part of one Church, "the bride of the lamb without spot."

Have a blessed Feast of the Holy Innocents!


26 posted on 12/28/2004 12:45:25 PM PST by Mershon
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To: Mershon

There's always one... If you don't want to talk about the subject of the article, go taunt someone else.


27 posted on 12/28/2004 12:52:08 PM PST by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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To: derheimwill

"When it is all over, Griswold could be faced with a single reality - that he will no longer be recognized as the leader of the U.S. Episcopal Church, that that role will be given to Pittsburgh Bishop Robert Duncan leader of the Anglican Communion Network of some dozen or more orthodox Episcopal bishops."

In effect, and in objective reality, it doesn't really matter, because as Pope Leo XIII reiterates what the Church of Christ has always taught, "They aren't really ordained bishops anyway." Null and void, get it?

There, I commented directly on part of the article, in the spirit of true ecumenism.


28 posted on 12/28/2004 12:56:19 PM PST by Mershon
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To: Mershon
There is only one, true Church, and the Anglican/Episcopalian one isn't the one.

Nor has it ever claimed to be. Your beef is with another worldwide communion that makes that statement. And some days I think they do a better job of it!

29 posted on 12/28/2004 1:37:31 PM PST by good_fight
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To: sionnsar

Very interesting article. I've been following this for awhile now, particularly the legal and theological aspects.

I pray that the Primates will make the right decision, but I am also hoping that the traditionalist will break away formally. If only an informal split occurs, I fear that the mass exodus of the faithful will continue. Leave the revisionists to their sins and cast them out from among you.

While I am not Anglican, my grandfather's family was for generations upon generations and I have a traditional affection for the Anglican communion and long to see it repent from the current heresies plaguing it.


30 posted on 12/28/2004 2:44:27 PM PST by reaganaut (Red state girl in a Blue state world (Socialist Republic of California))
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To: sionnsar

Think of it: Elizabeth Windsor may soon end up with the dubious honor of having reigned over not only the dissolution of the British Empire but also the collapse of the Anglican Communion.


31 posted on 12/29/2004 4:09:11 AM PST by bobjam
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To: Mershon

Scripturally speaking, the Anglican bishops are the only valid bishops in the world- 1st Timothy 3:1-7. As St Paul the Apostle writes, having a well managed household is a prerequisite and a qualification for the episcopacy. The Apostle reasons: "if a man cannot manage his own household, then how can he manage God's?" Because the Catholic and Orthodox bishops are monastics, they do not posses the necessary qualifications to oversee God's house, according to St Paul.


32 posted on 12/29/2004 4:19:09 AM PST by bobjam
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To: bobjam

Orthodox and Catholic theology, both around for about 1500 years prior to King Henry VIII, believe the Church interprets Scripture in light of Tradition and the Fathers of the Church. They do not rely upon any particular individual's private interpretation of Scripture for doctrinal or disciplinary purposes.

So in other words, your proof-texting an established doctrine that you already hold to "prove" Anglican bishops are the only valid ones is ahistorical, against the Fathers of the Church and Tradition and Sacred Scripture, as it is not for private interpretation.


33 posted on 12/29/2004 6:13:33 AM PST by Mershon
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To: Mershon

Anglicanism had been around long before Henry VIII- it goes back to the martyrdom of St Alban in 303 and includes St Patrick, St Bede the Venerable, St Edward the Confessor and St Anselm.

St Paul the Apostle wrote what he wrote. No interpretation is necessary. Roman Catholic theology is to interpret Scripture in light of what contemporary Roman Catholic theologians agree on- not historic theologians. This is why the Curia is able to teach things today that would not have found favor with Aquinas, Dominic, Anselm, etc.


34 posted on 12/29/2004 7:19:51 AM PST by bobjam
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To: Mershon

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35 posted on 12/29/2004 7:30:40 AM PST by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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To: bobjam; Mershon
As a congregationalist, I could claim that no titular bishop is legitimate but, I don't. Anyone who faithfully "looks after" is an "overseeer."
36 posted on 12/29/2004 7:36:15 AM PST by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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To: bobjam

"Anglicanism had been around long before Henry VIII- it goes back to the martyrdom of St Alban in 303 and includes St Patrick, St Bede the Venerable, St Edward the Confessor and St Anselm."

If you have some historical sources you can cite as evidence, I would be very interested. Do St. Alban, St. Patrick and St. Bede talk about their "Anglicanism"? I'm pretty sure Church Fathers refer to the Catholic Church as early as 105 A.D.,from what I have found by my research. Anglicans prior to Henry VIII??? Now that is a new one I have never heard before.

Please don't tell any Irish Catholics that St. Patrick was an Anglican, OK?


37 posted on 12/29/2004 7:55:08 AM PST by Mershon
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To: Mershon
Please don't tell any Irish Catholics that St. Patrick was an Anglican, OK?

He was born in England, kidnapped by the Irish, escaped, and returned there to preach the Gospel. His followers evangelized europe, in spite of Gregory's attempts to stop them. You are the one who mistakenly believes that Rome has authority to alter scripture.

38 posted on 12/29/2004 8:24:59 AM PST by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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To: derheimwill

All of the stuff you said regarding his life, of course, is true. But that does not make him an Anglican from a religious perspective.

Neither I nor Rome ever believes nor claims to have the authority to change Scripture. The Church is the custodian and servant of Scripture and Tradition, not its master. But we do have a living Church.

Please cite a reputable historical source that shows that St. Patrick was a member of the Church of England, outside the authority of the one, true, catholic and apostolic Church.

This should be interesting.


39 posted on 12/29/2004 8:42:02 AM PST by Mershon
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To: Mershon

Well, one of the major historical sources of early Anglicanism comes from St Bede himself. Many features of Anglican Christianity come from the pre-Tudor years. One of the most obvious examples is the Celtic Cross. Another is the liturgy itself. Cranmer's 1549 BCP liturgy is essentially an English translation of the Sarum (Latin for Salisbury) Rites.

The concept of the "Roman Catholic Church" really only dates back to the Council of Trent and the Counter-Reformation. Prior to that, the institutional church in western Europe was simply known as the "Western Church". As you may know, "catholic" means "universal". When the Nicene Fathers wrote "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church" in the Creed, I seriously doubt they were referring specifically to the see of the Bishop of Rome.


40 posted on 12/29/2004 8:57:39 AM PST by bobjam
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