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To: rogator; anniegetyourgun; Miss Marple; kstewskis
I've actually considered posting a vanity sometime to do a survey and find out how many people have been hurt by, or forced to leave a church due to the contemporary agenda, or how many are unhappy in their churches because 'seeker sensitive' pastors and music ministers ignore the musical worship of the congregation in order to bring in bigger numbers.

I tend to be a touch cynical about it because I have so many colleagues who have lost long time music positions through false accusations and deceit, as I did (rather than honestly being told 'We want someone different in this job who will make us more popular'), and it makes me seriously wonder who is leading this movement in our churches.

IMO, there is something sinister at work here, because if God were really in this, people's lives wouldn't be being destroyed because of it.

To tell you the truth, annie....I would never work in 90% of today's churches because I actually believe the music ministry is to allow Christians to worship (with heart and soul and MIND) and not to draw a crowd or give people warm fuzzies with no meaning, and that's not the trend in today's churches.

I praise the Lord that we found a rare church with the depth to want true Biblical worship, and not popularity.

138 posted on 03/13/2005 7:12:43 PM PST by ohioWfan (The trumpet of freedom has been sounded, and that trumpet never calls retreat. (George W. Bush))
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To: ohioWfan
I've actually considered posting a vanity sometime to do a survey and find out how many people have been hurt by, or forced to leave a church due to the contemporary agenda,

Count me as one.

139 posted on 03/13/2005 9:20:37 PM PST by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles"....Fr. A Saenz.)
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To: ohioWfan
"IMO, there is something sinister at work here, because if God were really in this, people's lives wouldn't be being destroyed because of it."

I believe it is "strange fire" that many churches are putting forth in their worship (not exclusively defined as music, of course). In all the elements of corporate gathering (the Word, prayer, service, stewardship, and worship), we are seeing a degredation. The Word is neglected for a type of Readers-Digest-Storytelling "sermon." Most churches can barely get a handful of people together for any type of regular prayer; service has been translated into performing and prideful acts; stewardship translates (if you believe Barna and other surveys) into 80-90% of congregates stealing from God and; worship is designed assuming the unbiblical premise that unregenerate man seeks God.

It appears to me that worshipping "in Spirit and in Truth" have been reinterpreted to mean "with energy and sincerity." How sad that churches (and leaders of those flocks) have settled for such a low standard.

Count me as one who has given up. I've compromised in all areas except one - bible-based teaching from the pulpit. This is not the way I want it, but it's what is available where I am. I grieve over it, but recognize that our hope for true worship will be realized when we get to our intended home.

142 posted on 03/14/2005 5:57:07 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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