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“Icon in music” [bad music is not worshipful]
Pontifications ^ | 12/01/2004 | Pontificator

Posted on 12/01/2004 7:48:32 AM PST by sionnsar

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To: AnAmericanMother

I hate praise music too. All the churches are "doing it" where I live. It's so irreverent and "casual". Unfortunately, that whole attitude is keeping me home on Sundays.


21 posted on 12/01/2004 4:32:21 PM PST by bonfire
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To: bonfire

Have you checked everywhere? I would think that PCA Presbyterians, Missouri Synod Lutherans and conservative Catholics would be the last to do this - and certainly not Orthodox, Melkite Catholics, or any other of the Eastern Churches.


22 posted on 12/01/2004 6:15:42 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother

No PCA here. The only one I haven't tried (besides Catholic) is the Missouri Lutheran and it's next on my list!
My mother goes to a ML church and they have an entire praise service.


23 posted on 12/01/2004 6:28:59 PM PST by bonfire
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To: bonfire
Oh, dear.

Maybe you can find a nice quiet Catholic church with chant? There's one here. Just one drawback - the Mass is entirely in Latin.

;-)

24 posted on 12/01/2004 6:41:51 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thanks, AAM. We try to deal with things as they come, but I think it will all turn out for the best. She is 17 weeks along and that is good as far as miscarrying goes. She had a seizure yesterday, and we had to do a little time in the emergency room.

Your thoughts and prayers are most appreciated, all of you Freepers who do pray for us!


25 posted on 12/01/2004 6:45:37 PM PST by No_Outcome_But_Victory (Please pray for Ann, my pregnant wife. (High risk pregnancy.))
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory

Both my sister and I made it . . . 17 weeks is good . . . we'll keep praying!


26 posted on 12/01/2004 6:53:29 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory

Will add you both to my prayers, NOBV.


27 posted on 12/01/2004 7:13:24 PM PST by bonfire
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To: sionnsar

As an Evangelical Christian, I enjoy "praise and worship" music - at home, in the car. I do not believe it belongs in church services. When I go to church, I want traditional hymns, an organ or piano, and a choir. Formal music adds to the spirit of reverence that should be part of church worship.

BTW, my husband has sang both in choir and on a 'worship team' and he would rather sing in a choir for the same reason.


28 posted on 12/01/2004 8:11:07 PM PST by reaganaut (Red state girl in a Blue state world (Socialist Republic of California))
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To: bonfire

Thanks, bonfire, I appreciate it!


29 posted on 12/01/2004 8:25:47 PM PST by No_Outcome_But_Victory (Please pray for Ann, my pregnant wife. (High risk pregnancy.))
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To: Alex Murphy

I make no secret of being something of an old fart ...


30 posted on 12/01/2004 8:58:49 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: sionnsar
food for thought - Thanks for you posting of this article. If you heard some of the I/me versions of modern liturgy practiced in some ECUSA churches in the Chicago area, you would know that the devil has taken the apple to a new group of people in the guise of CHANGE.
31 posted on 12/02/2004 2:55:02 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: q_an_a
The Evil One has been hanging with ECUSA for a long, long time. This is just another in his seemingly bottomless bag of tricks.
32 posted on 12/02/2004 4:35:59 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: ArrogantBustard; Alex Murphy

Who, or what, is Stryper?


33 posted on 12/02/2004 7:03:34 AM PST by sionnsar († trad-anglican.faithweb.com † || Iran Azadi || All I want for Christmas is a legitimate governor.)
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To: sionnsar

Imagine if Spinal Tap was a Christian band, that's Stryper.


34 posted on 12/02/2004 7:05:54 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: sionnsar; Dr. Eckleburg; OrthodoxPresbyterian; thePilgrim; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; ...
The writer focused on the Catholic church, but my experience is that his comments apply across the board, from Catholic through Episcopal to Protestant.

I thing that most Calvinists will agree with much that is posted here. IMHO modern Christians want God to be a big buddy, and not God.

Gang?

GRPL PING


35 posted on 12/02/2004 7:19:38 AM PST by Gamecock (Paul was a Calvinist)
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To: AnAmericanMother; bonfire

There is a smattering of praise music in the PCA, but it is stuff that is sound. i.e. not self-exaulting.


36 posted on 12/02/2004 7:22:31 AM PST by Gamecock (Paul was a Calvinist)
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To: dfwgator
Imagine if Spinal Tap was a Christian band, that's Stryper.

Now I'm feeling even older. Spinal Tap? Uhhh... don't bother.

37 posted on 12/02/2004 7:39:11 AM PST by sionnsar († trad-anglican.faithweb.com † || Iran Azadi || All I want for Christmas is a legitimate governor.)
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory
Your thoughts and prayers are most appreciated, all of you Freepers who do pray for us!

As we, and our church, continue to do...

38 posted on 12/02/2004 7:40:08 AM PST by sionnsar († trad-anglican.faithweb.com † || Iran Azadi || All I want for Christmas is a legitimate governor.)
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To: sionnsar; Alex Murphy; dfwgator
This:

is "Stryper".

They are (were?) a band.

That is, they did something which they purported to be making music.

Christian music.

Allegedly.

Their doctrine was questionable.

Their musical talents were without question.

They were abhominable.

IMO.

39 posted on 12/02/2004 7:43:31 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

What's with the silly getups? Uhhh... never mind. Thanks!


40 posted on 12/02/2004 7:53:33 AM PST by sionnsar († trad-anglican.faithweb.com † || Iran Azadi || All I want for Christmas is a legitimate governor.)
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