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To: Convert from ECUSA
These Rainbow Rash folks really wear on the nerve endings, just like a rusty hinge on an August afternoon. Why don't they just go to the Episcopal church down the street?!?! They'd be more than welcome at most of them.

They OWN the Episcopal Church, they and their pagan/feminist friends.

It is not about gays having a place to call home, as a church. They have that already. It is about you and me totally capitulating to their threats, and being afraid to lift your voice against their evil.

When those who are behind this financially get what they want, which is a weakened Church and a docile population, the gays will be tossed aside, just like the other minorities they have no use for any more.

8 posted on 11/17/2004 10:20:59 AM PST by No_Outcome_But_Victory (Catholic Catechumen)
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory

"They OWN the Episcopal Church, they and their pagan/feminist friends."

Yep. - this was one of the biggest reasons why I left the ECUSA. There is a remant of good and godly people, but they are fighting an incredible uphill battle.


13 posted on 11/17/2004 11:40:21 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory

You've got the motivation all wrong. When the moral & sexual perverts get what they want, they'll drop the churches and their Christian facades like the athiests they truly are. Their motivation is to change the mores & morals of society in order to normalize their aberrant behavior. Then, and only then, will they be able to push through the laws that protect their behavior from formal social control. Some smart butt monkey, 20 years ago, realized that the only way to effect change in the moral fabric of society is to attack the source of that moral code....namely, religion. Any freshman undergrad taking Soc. 101 can see the diabolical logic of it. If we care to be totally honest about it, the lesbigays are not so much deserving of our contempt as are our fellow Christians who are so bereft of faith that they've allowed this plan to work so well.


17 posted on 11/17/2004 12:29:43 PM PST by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory; ArGee

It is not about gays having a place to call home, as a church. They have that already. It is about you and me totally capitulating to their threats, and being afraid to lift your voice against their evil.


Precisely.

An excerpt from: The Overhauling of Straight America:

"While public opinion is one primary source of mainstream values, religious authority is the other. When conservative churches condemn gays, there are only two things we can do to confound the homophobia of true believers. First, we can use talk to muddy the moral waters. This means publicizing support for gays by more moderate churches, raising theological objections of our own about conservative interpretations of biblical teachings, and exposing hatred and inconsistency. Second, we can undermine the moral authority of homophobic churches by portraying them as antiquated backwaters, badly out of step with the times and with the latest findings of psychology. Against the mighty pull of institutional Religion one must set the mightier draw of Science and Public Opinion (the shield and word of that accursed 'secular humanism').

Such an unholy alliance has worked well against churches before, on such topics as divorce and abortion. With enough open talk about the prevalence and acceptability of homosexuality, that alliance can work again here..."



Sex, torture and erotic electrification in America's 'gay' churches"

23 posted on 11/17/2004 2:24:12 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory

Well they need to go elsewhere and not the Catholic Church. They need to get a life or do something besides bug Catholics and make everyone conform to their way of life.


25 posted on 11/17/2004 4:58:02 PM PST by rrammfcitkttur01_2006 (Kerry 4 more years of stupidity)
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