[bornacatholic]

of course you guys aren't at fault. It is clear from Tradition and History and Christian Doctrine that Jesus desired to establish a Church that would fail in the latter days and He would raise up a schismatic to preserve Tradition and self-annointed experts and traditionalists would decide what is and isnt Tradition and what is and isnt Doctrine and it would be their duty to decide when and if they would obey.

(We used to call such men protestants)

[sempertrad]

It is clear from Tradition and History and Christian Doctrine that Jesus desired to establish a Church that would fail in the latter days

Would you please point out where I said that the Church Our Lord established - The Holy Roman Catholic Church - has "failed"?

and He would raise up a schismatic to preserve Tradition

Nah. He'd never raise up a schismatic, but He would select a courageous soul who would preserve the definitions of His Doctrines and the Traditions blessed by Him, and resist those who would intentionally or unintentionally undermine those teachings and Traditions. Do you deny that the Church's history is full of Saints who spoke out against errors of prelates and popes, resisted the spread of those errors, and encouraged others speak out and resist those errors? "Self-annointed experts"? Not sure what you mean here. Traditional Catholics look no further than the words and examples of the Saints, the Popes, the Doctors of the Church to show us the way during times of crisis.

and traditionalists would decide what is and isnt Tradition and what is and isnt Doctrine

Nope. No need for anyone to do that. See, the Church has already determined what is and isn't Tradition and what is and isn't Doctrine.

it would be their duty to decide when and if they would obey.

Would you kindly point out which doctrine(s) I don't "obey"?