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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

This is rather disturbing, and directly against the expectations of trads on the news of the agreement two years ago, myself included. More Indult-inclined trads had a lot of hopes pinned on Campos.

We had Bishop Rifan in the UK only last month, and I must say, everything was 100% traditional. Is this really the price of episcopal participation? He doesn't look like he's enjoying himself...

However, did he just participate in the Mass (i.e. just attended), or did he actually concelebrate?

ps. I'm new here, so nice to make my first posting, subject matter aside!


14 posted on 11/10/2004 1:24:49 PM PST by davidj
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To: davidj
This is rather disturbing, and directly against the expectations of trads on the news of the agreement two years ago, myself included.

Myself also. At the time, Campos seemed like the perfect model. I have seen many supporters of the Latin Mass inquire whether the Campos jurisdiction couldn't be applied to traditionalists throughout the world.

Is this really the price of episcopal participation? He doesn't look like he's enjoying himself...

I guess there's always a price to pay. If one truly has a conscience and principles, then he could never participate in such a travesty even once. It's like St. Thomas More, "C'mon, just a couple meaningless words one time and then you can go back to believing whatever you like." But once you've said those words, you've sold out and all your other actions can never make up for that betrayal.

I'm not a bishop, thank God, but at least I never am forced ever to participate in these outrages against God. Not even the rack and the thumbscrews could get me to set foot in such a "liturgy."

However, did he just participate in the Mass (i.e. just attended), or did he actually concelebrate?

He's wearing vestments and a stole. Did he hold his hand up during the "Second Eucharistic Prayer"? Who knows. And would it make any difference one way or another?

20 posted on 11/10/2004 2:17:42 PM PST by Maximilian
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To: davidj

Welcome to the forum David - good to have another Brit around here.

Don't be shy about posting - its the best way to work out what gets different people's goats!!!


44 posted on 11/10/2004 4:46:10 PM PST by Tantumergo
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