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To: nasachen
Sin is not God or somehow 'unavoidable' by the real, literal new creation in Jesus Christ. Part of sin is however, being deceived that there is a proper way to do emotion (at all) and that supposed way is most excellently demonstrated by being incredulous concerning every Word of God that is very plainly stated as spirit and life and not mere 'holy information'.

sin is a living creature that is the speech that is not the Word of God and is the spirit of the anti-Christ, not a mere abstract (there are no abstracts) or a mere title of certain acts to be applied variously

no one has sinned since being genuinely born again in Jesus Christ. Doubt that? Evil is commited in the flesh, but the new creation in Jesus Christ is not flesh. God in every way distinguishes the flesh and the acts in it through forgivenness and new birth and from the real, literal new creation in Jesus Christ.

Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

The flesh is very plainly demarcated from the real, literal new creation in Jesus Christ. Further, God unambiguously says as spirit and life:

1 John 3:6-9 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Because God speaks through me in no way even implies that what He says through me should be 'added' to the Bible. Very plainly it is already there except (possibly) for the names of the real, literal new creations in Jesus Christ birthed and blessed through me. If you don't know that you are yourself a king and priest in Jesus Christ as a real, literal new creation in Jesus Christ, you have been deceived. Mere humility-speak will not stop the persecution God will cause you to walk through because of what He does and says through you. It is of no profit no matter the many through whom it is spoken so that they may merely appear to the non-regenerate as masters of emotion.

Gal 2:11 But when Peter came to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be condemned: Gal 2:12 for before that certain came from James, he ate with those of the nations; but when they came, he drew back and separated himself, fearing those of the circumcision; Gal 2:13 and the rest of the Jews also played the same dissembling part with him; so that even Barnabas was carried away too by their dissimulation. Gal 2:14 But when I saw that they do not walk straightforwardly, according to the truth of the glad tidings, I said to Peter before all, If *thou*, being a Jew, livest as the nations and not as the Jews, how dost thou compel the nations to Judaize?

In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

57 posted on 11/06/2004 8:35:13 PM PST by telder1
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To: telder1

Yea,..I follow the spirit regeneration perspective of being born again, ...but that resurrection thing tends to shed some doubt on the issue that the body isn't good through Christ as well. IMHO, it's more than spiritual,..man is body, soul and spirit.


58 posted on 11/06/2004 9:47:27 PM PST by Cvengr (;^))
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To: telder1

"Gal 2:11 But when Peter came to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be condemned: Gal 2:12 for before that certain came from James, he ate with those of the nations; but when they came, he drew back and separated himself, fearing those of the circumcision; Gal 2:13 and the rest of the Jews also played the same dissembling part with him; so that even Barnabas was carried away too by their dissimulation. Gal 2:14 But when I saw that they do not walk straightforwardly, according to the truth of the glad tidings, I said to Peter before all, If *thou*, being a Jew, livest as the nations and not as the Jews, how dost thou compel the nations to Judaize?"

Well telder1, more proof God is real. Are you in BSF by chance? I was studying this very passage last night, and gee, here it is this morning.

Question .... how do you explain 'backlsliding' and distinguish that from 'sin'?


63 posted on 11/07/2004 4:40:35 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: telder1
I do not disagree with the truth that we are both sin and do not sin. The scripture in 1 John specifically denotes sinlessness to that part of us that is born of God, namely our spirit. Romans 8 reveals to us that our bodies have not been redeemed yet and they groan along with nature waiting or the redemption or our body. Romans 8:9 states that to be in the Spirit simply means that the Spirit of God dwells in you and this is why Paul said to the whole Roman church that "You are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. So I am in complete agreement with that part of your statement that no one has sinned since becoming born again if you limit that statement to the spirit of man only. John also says just before that that if we say that we are without sin....the truth is not in us. We must come to the conclusion than as did Paul that the spirit lusts against the flesh and the flesh against the spirit.

I may not understand what you mean by sin being simply speech. Sin dwells in our bodies as Paul stated. Sin is a craving inspired by temptation to do that which is not right in the eyes of God.
66 posted on 11/07/2004 8:02:49 AM PST by nasachen
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