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Jesus said he who perseveres to the end will be saved ... what does that tell you?


2 posted on 11/04/2004 5:54:06 PM PST by mrplind (If it's not a baby, then you're not pregnant!)
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"Jesus said he who perseveres to the end will be saved ... what does that tell you?"

That he who perseveres will be saved. Jesus didn't define what he meant by persevere though.


3 posted on 11/04/2004 6:06:08 PM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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Jesus said he who perseveres to the end will be saved ... what does that tell you?

The LORD is correct. Perseverance until the end is required. The question is how will the person persevere?

Jesus also said?

All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

--John 6:37

What does that tell you?


8 posted on 11/04/2004 6:50:04 PM PST by rdb3 (The Black GOP vote numbers are up, and they WILL go higher. -- rdb3 "Hip-Hop FReeper")
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Jesus said he who perseveres to the end will be saved ...
Need to put this one in context!...
This one comes from Revelations, and refers to those 'new' christians converted during the great tribulation, which follows the rapture.
14 posted on 11/04/2004 8:05:24 PM PST by Safrguns
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I very much appreciate all the replies you have made. I was reading again that big post you provided.

Mr.Plind, I think, as a protestant, I have figured out what the heart of the disagreement is: what is the difference between 'backsliding' and rejecting the 'faith'? Is backsliding, of any kind, seen in the orthodex view as 'turning away'?


55 posted on 11/06/2004 11:14:34 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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