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To: JB_90

The Europeon aristocracy were nothing but a bunch of thugs. How many Austrian pesants starved so little Charley could eat dainties on gold plates.


2 posted on 10/03/2004 7:02:43 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA; HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity; Canticle_of_Deborah; Maeve; ELS; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Sorry you feel that way, but Karl (or Charles) was of very saintly character. He took over the reigns of government from Franz Joeseph in 1916 - in the middle of WWI, and did his best to serve the countrymen of his very ethnicly diverse empire. He did his best to maintain a policy of semi autonomy in local matters, to allow the various ethnic groups to have some limited self governance.

In the war he insisted upon fair and ethical treatment of POWs, and ordered an end to the use of mustard gas. He also was constantly trying to find a way to come to the table to talk a peace settlement. But France, England, and the USA would have none of that. The only one who agree with him in his peace proposals was Pope Benedict.

After he was forced out of office by masonic anti-monarchial elements within and without his country, he twice tried to regain the throne, with the aid of the Hungarians. In the end he failed, and retired in exile to die of pneumonia.

This man was very much a Christian King......a Catholic who tried to uphold the rights of non-Catholics within his realm. This also was a leader who strove for fairness in labor practices, and with regard to housing. He was also the last Holy Roman Emporer.

As a desendant of citizens of his empire, I am very proud to see him Beatified.

Blessed Karl of Hapburg, pray for us!


3 posted on 10/03/2004 8:51:21 PM PDT by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux!)
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Uh, sorry to "disappoint" you, but while his army was fighting on the front, he didn't dine while he reigned. He and his family lived on official wartime rations, and forbade anyone in his family to eat white bread. This is historical fact.


4 posted on 10/03/2004 8:58:18 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: DManA

Your comments show you to be no better than the Jacobin thugs of the French Revolution. People like you have been responsible for millions of deaths since 1789. Take your class warfare and egalitarianism to a leftist website where it will fit in better.

The European aristocracy nurtured and led the greatest civilization the world has ever known. Charles I was a saint who even from childhood lived only to serve God and do what was best for his people. Try to read something about him before spouting off with your malicious leftwing ignorance.


5 posted on 10/04/2004 7:10:14 AM PDT by royalcello
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To: DManA

Lets see what democracy got the world, in the 1790s, it gave France the reign of terror in France, in the late 1920s, it gave Germany Hitler. We can not view the world though the lens of US history.


20 posted on 10/04/2004 2:24:35 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: DManA

I have never read that ANY Austrian peasants starved. Can you give me soe source documents?


26 posted on 10/04/2004 10:04:50 PM PDT by saradippity
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