[ultima ratio]

"Cardinal Ratzinger is quoted --EXCERPT is the name of the game! -- to support SSPX opinion about the Pauline Rite Mass."

This post is unreasonable. Now you object to excerpts. Would you have me cite Ratzinger's whole book on the liturgy, or his entire speech at the Fontgombault conference? Most informed people know he has been consistently one of the most outspoken critics of the Novus Ordo--even blaming it for the present crisis in the Church. It was he who wrote the introduction to Klaus Gamber's devastating critique on the New Mass as well.

Furthermore, while the Cardinal has been unreservedly negative about Bugnini's Mass--which he calls a "fabrication by a committee"--this in no way means that he is in total agreement with the SSPX--nor have I indicated anything at all like this. Just the opposite. If you followed the discussion on this thread, you would see I was arguing that his notion of "sacrifice" was not traditional by his own admission--that is, not propitiatory. This would not have been in agreement with the SSPX--nor was I suggesting it was.

In short, you don't know what you're talking about.

[GirlShortstop]

Now you object to excerpts. Would you have me cite Ratzinger's whole book on the liturgy, or his entire speech at the Fontgombault conference? Most informed people know he has been consistently one of the most outspoken critics of the Novus Ordo--even blaming it for the present crisis in the Church. It was he who wrote the introduction to Klaus Gamber's devastating critique on the New Mass as well.


Regarding the Eucharist, the Vatican, that is to say Cardinal Ratzinger, notes the failure of the Report to accept that the Sacrifice of Calvary is made present in the Mass "with all its effects, thus affirming the propitiatory nature of the Eucharistic sacrifice, which can also be applied to the deceased:
For Catholics "the whole Church" must include the dead. The prayer for the dead is to be found in all the Canons of the Mass, and the propitiatory character of the Mass as the Sacrifice of Christ may be offered for the living and the dead, including a particular dead person, is part of the Catholic faith. Michael Davies quoting Cardinal Ratzinger

Where did you answer the questions that I posed?