[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "The SSPX has refused obedience to legitimate authority as regards lawful commands and without necessity" Let me repeat "WITHOUT NECESSITY"

That is really the sticking point is it not? You think it is without necessity and we do. It is a wonder to me but clearly you think the problems of the Church are minor or at least do not rise to the level our Blessed Archbishop did. I'll stand with the Archbishop. I have been reading the book Vows of Silence, it is so depressing. Many Protestants have no clue how bad the rot is in the Church and many more Catholics refuse it see it. It is so depressing. It has cleared on thing up for me. When reading the Gospels I could not quite understand why Christ was so hard on the Jewish leaders of His day. Consider how bad the Hebrews had been in the past, idol worship, temple prostitutes, child sacrifice to strange gods, none of that was happening at the time of Christ except by the Romans so why the hard words. I can see now how an institution can become so corrupted, so valueless that they loose sight of their higher calling. Unfortunately pride, avarice and lust seems to be more attractive to some.

So in conclusion,I very much doubt there will ever be a point where fans of Vatican II will smell that pot of coffee. And those priest in SSPX who are unhappy? You can have them if you want. One word of caution you get them "as is", if you think the SSPX is being unfair and too hard on them just remember Urriogotty, you rescued him from those mean old SSPX Bishops as well.

[ninenot]

Consider how bad the Hebrews had been in the past, idol worship, temple prostitutes, child sacrifice to strange gods,

And STILL they are the chosen people.

History matters. The Church is still indefectible, too, you know.