1 posted on
09/20/2004 7:38:56 AM PDT by
NYer
To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
But like Rome has said, the door is open for you return. I will pray that God gives you the necessary strength to walk through it. I personally join my prayers to his.
2 posted on
09/20/2004 7:40:47 AM PDT by
NYer
(When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
To: AAABEST; All
In fact, two websites have now popped up that are exclusively devoted to tracing all the news stories associated with the crisis. These sites are in French; here are the links.
Crise A La FSSPX
Crise Fraternite
3 posted on
09/20/2004 7:47:39 AM PDT by
NYer
(When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
To: NYer
Taking a break from judging annulments earlier today, I visited a number of French traditionalist websites. Is Pete Vere judging annulments?
As for the particular details, this is the first time in almost fourteen years of being a traditionalist that I find the fog of war too thick to reasonably discern what is going on.
Is Pete Vere a traditionalist?
To: BlackElk
10 posted on
09/20/2004 9:36:57 AM PDT by
BlackElk
( Ketchupboy delenda est.)
To: NYer; Land of the Irish; pro Athanasius; thor76; AlbionGirl; Pio; pascendi; ultima ratio; ...
Re: "So if I can end on a personal note to the moderate SSPX clergy and their supporters who follow this blog,"
I see he is praying for the "Liberal" SSPX priests and their supporters but not for the rock solid conservative SSPX priests and their supporters.
cautus ping
Just for the record, when I lead the rosary like I did this morning I included the Holy Father, his Bishops and ALL his ministers. This includes Cardinal Law.
To: NYer
It does appear that Rome has refused to take competency over the case, more-or-less stating that the SSPX denied Rome's jurisdiction over them when Lefebvre carried out a schismatic act through the 1988 episcopal consecrations. Beyond that, Rome refuses to comment other than to say, "Our door remains open for their return to full communion." Like the Bush White House's handling of Dan Rather and CBS, the Vatican steps back and allows SSPX factions to fight this one out.
13 posted on
09/20/2004 10:12:43 AM PDT by
sinkspur
("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
To: NYer
This is about as reliable as a CBS story about the Republicans. Envoy would like nothing better than chaos to reign within the SSPX. But what's going on is not unusual in an institution of growing influence. Same thing happened in the early Church.
To: NYer
I think the expulsion of Fr. Aulagnier and the SSPX's increased intransigence and hate-filled anti-Papal rhetoric since have demonstrated that the SSPX is simply not interested in reconciling with a fully orthodox and legitimate Supreme Pontiff. I pray that they would see sense, but I am not hopeful.
To: NYer; sinkspur; BlackElk; Land of the Irish; ultima ratio; Unam Sanctam; Tantumergo; ...
One silly hothead frog priest throws his toys out of the cot because he didn't get his way and suddenly neo-Catholics are rushing to proclaim that the entire SSPX is in "total chaos".
This seems to be a case of making a mountain out of a mole-hill. Now, if you want to see some real cause for chaos...
http://www.ocweekly.com/ink/05/02/cover-arellano.php
To: NYer
SSPX FRANCE REPORTEDLY IN CHAOS Does this title presume that there remains something in France not in chaos?
106 posted on
09/20/2004 7:19:17 PM PDT by
Barnacle
(Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
To: NYer
They're on the Highway to Hell.
112 posted on
09/20/2004 7:37:27 PM PDT by
JohnnyZ
("The common man doesn't look at me as some rich witch." --Teresa Heinz Kerry)
To: NYer
Is it customary now to use acronyms without bother to define it?
Who's got a Ouija Board?
401 posted on
09/25/2004 9:18:21 PM PDT by
Publius6961
(I, also, don't do diplomacy.)
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