Now that's what I call progress:
What was punished for being 'the opiate of the people' became encouraged and used as a tool to foster the desired opiating.
Worth a deja vue ping to your lists?:
And should anyone suggest that you are paranoid for adopting such a cautious, sceptical, conspiratorial attitude to an Ecumenical Council so beloved of the Holy Father and the Western episcopates, offer them this Catholic reality check from Cardinal Newman, who wrote of the Church in the fourth century:
"The body of bishops failed in their confession of the Faith... They spoke variously, one against another; there was nothing, after Nicea, of firm, unvarying, consistent testimony, for nearly sixty years. There were untrustworthy Councils, unfaithful bishops; there was weakness, fear of consequences, misguidance, delusion, hallucination, endless, hopeless, extending into nearly every corner of the Catholic Church. The comparatively few who remained faithful were discredited and driven into exile; the rest were either deceivers or deceived…"
In one word---devastating. Thanks for posting it.
It took over 70 years for communism to fall and many thought it was a bad idea from the beginning (they were right). Give it time. Once the generation that brought the mess is gone, fixing it will be a lot easier.
"It not only breaks the rules in order to shut down debate, it marches off to start its own idea of a church - in this case one involving 'radical alterations in the ways of thinking, feeling and living.' It was to vanquish clericalism, but raised up a super-clericalism. It opposed authoritarianism, yet imposed a liberal tyranny. It guaranteed liturgical renewal, then introduced a reign of iconoclastic terror. It spoke endlessly of a Second Spring, only to plunge us into the long dark night of an endless Winter."
Amen. This is why some of us seek shelter in what is still fully and truly Catholic, regardless of what a compromised pope might falsely charge--in the nearest chapel of SSPX. We are living in dangerous times and our first thought must be to save our souls and the souls of our loved ones. Faith must be nourished in the midst of a faithless world--and the conciliar Church does not provide the means to do this.
It was, of course, within his power to reverse the evil wrought by Vatican II and to restore the Roman Catholic Church to his former majesty.
The destructiion of the royal character of the Church is the greatest disaster that could have taken place. This "revolution" in the Church is the greatest catastrophe in the History of Mankind.
Pope John Paul II has invited members of other religions to make their contribution to the reform of the Papacy when only Catholics should have a say on the topic.
Here is a pope who received semi-naked women, danced rock 'n roll and openly admired immodest dress. What has he taught the ensemble of the Church? Does the pope have the right to act against the Church's two-thousand-year-old moral principles?
The papacy has become an enormous stage and the pope an entertainer in a transformation destroying the solemnity, sacrality, and supreme dignity of the role of pope and the institution of the papacy.
How the Church could pursue ecumenism with heretics and not incur the suspicions of heresy, since it favors, protects, and stimulates heretics to become more convinced of their own errors?
The Church, under the present pope has anesthetized natural reactions to the invasion of Europe by Muslims and their countless agressions against Catholics all over the world. Haven't these vatican leaders, under Pope John Paul II played a role in promoting Islam and betrayed the Catholic cause?
What end does the dialogue with voodooism achieve? Receiving, encouraging and defending representatives of the voodoo cult promotes the cult of satan.
Finally, the papacy today is not compatible with the past of the Holy Church and with Catholic doctrine. It seems that what is paramount is stopping the process of destruction of the Papacy and Catholic insitutions. Anything else is continuing along the road that benefits the universal Revolution and such a path will lead the Conciliar Church inevitably to incur the wrath of God and His chastisement.
Consider the Catholic Church today:
As opposed to the past atmosphere of Reverent Worship with members of the congregation directing their attention to God and not each other, today's Novus Ordo "mass" has a social entertainment atmosphere.
Appearing more like a public meeting in what passes as a mass today, we find constant standing, sitting, and amplified noise. Today's emphasis is on "instruction," with socializing before & after service and, of course, handshaking during.
The Tridentine Mass had profound Reverence for the Real Presence with sixteen genuflections. The hands of the priest alone touched the consecrated host and communion was administered only on the tongue. Today, if one is alert, we see indifference and irreverence towards the Real Presence with only three genuflections required. Laymen & women distribute communion in the hand - a practice protestants introduced to deny Christ's Real Presence.
In the Novus Ordo there is a systematic Omission of Catholic Doctrine where new prayers systematically omit references to hell, judgement, punishment for sin, merits of the Saints, the one true Church, the souls of the departed and miracles.
In the pre-Vatican II era, the bulk of Sunday prayers and their arrangement goes back to the fourth and fifth centuries. Today old Sunday prayers have been omitted or stripped of doctrines, and rearranged. With only 17% of the old prayers remaining, large chunks of ancient Canon are now "optional." The words of consecration, Christ's own words "For you and for many", are changed. Three substitute "Canons" were invented and introduced in the 1960s, and still more were invented later.
In the true mass, everything was regulated by precise laws to protect the purity of worship and doctrine. Today's Novus Ordo offers constant change with options, options and more options. Individual priests and parish liturgy committees get to pick, drop or invent texts to push what they think people should believe.
The priest faced the tabernacle, cross and altar (symbolically toward God)and performed all the actions and recited all the prayers of the Mass. In today's parish churches the priest is the "President" and actor who faces people instead of symbolically "toward God." While the priest sits off to side, his functions given away to lay men and women.
What a golden opportunity squandered by our aging ailing pope!
It was, of course, within his power to reverse the evil wrought by Vatican II and to restore the Roman Catholic Church to his former majesty.
The destructiion of the royal character of the Church is the greatest disaster that could have taken place. This "revolution" in the Church is the greatest catastrophe in the History of Mankind.
Pope John Paul II has invited members of other religions to make their contribution to the reform of the Papacy when only Catholics should have a say on the topic.
Here is a pope who received semi-naked women, danced rock 'n roll and openly admired immodest dress. What has he taught the ensemble of the Church? Does the pope have the right to act against the Church's two-thousand-year-old moral principles?
The papacy has become an enormous stage and the pope an entertainer in a transformation destroying the solemnity, sacrality, and supreme dignity of the role of pope and the institution of the papacy.
How the Church could pursue ecumenism with heretics and not incur the suspicions of heresy, since it favors, protects, and stimulates heretics to become more convinced of their own errors?
The Church, under the present pope has anesthetized natural reactions to the invasion of Europe by Muslims and their countless agressions against Catholics all over the world. Haven't these vatican leaders, under Pope John Paul II played a role in promoting Islam and betrayed the Catholic cause?
What end does the dialogue with voodooism achieve? Receiving, encouraging and defending representatives of the voodoo cult promotes the cult of satan.
Finally, the papacy today is not compatible with the past of the Holy Church and with Catholic doctrine. It seems that what is paramount is stopping the process of destruction of the Papacy and Catholic insitutions. Anything else is continuing along the road that benefits the universal Revolution and such a path will lead the Conciliar Church inevitably to incur the wrath of God and His chastisement.
Consider the Catholic Church today:
As opposed to the past atmosphere of Reverent Worship with members of the congregation directing their attention to God and not each other, today's Novus Ordo "mass" has a social entertainment atmosphere.
Appearing more like a public meeting in what passes as a mass today, we find constant standing, sitting, and amplified noise. Today's emphasis is on "instruction," with socializing before & after service and, of course, handshaking during.
The Tridentine Mass had profound Reverence for the Real Presence with sixteen genuflections. The hands of the priest alone touched the consecrated host and communion was administered only on the tongue. Today, if one is alert, we see indifference and irreverence towards the Real Presence with only three genuflections required. Laymen & women distribute communion in the hand - a practice protestants introduced to deny Christ's Real Presence.
In the Novus Ordo there is a systematic Omission of Catholic Doctrine where new prayers systematically omit references to hell, judgement, punishment for sin, merits of the Saints, the one true Church, the souls of the departed and miracles.
In the pre-Vatican II era, the bulk of Sunday prayers and their arrangement goes back to the fourth and fifth centuries. Today old Sunday prayers have been omitted or stripped of doctrines, and rearranged. With only 17% of the old prayers remaining, large chunks of ancient Canon are now "optional." The words of consecration, Christ's own words "For you and for many", are changed. Three substitute "Canons" were invented and introduced in the 1960s, and still more were invented later.
In the true mass, everything was regulated by precise laws to protect the purity of worship and doctrine. Today's Novus Ordo offers constant change with options, options and more options. Individual priests and parish liturgy committees get to pick, drop or invent texts to push what they think people should believe.
The priest faced the tabernacle, cross and altar (symbolically toward God)and performed all the actions and recited all the prayers of the Mass. In today's parish churches the priest is the "President" and actor who faces people instead of symbolically "toward God." While the priest sits off to side, his functions given away to lay men and women.