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To: Guelph4ever

He would have made who co-equal - the Catholic Croats or the Orthodox Slavs co-equals? Try your apologist view of history somewhere else. PS: The Hungarians never loved being part of that crappy empire either.


50 posted on 08/19/2004 6:40:06 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

P.S. Then why were both efforts to restore Charles made in Hungary? Why did Hungary continue to function as a monarchy (though with a regent in place of the absent king) decades after they had been seperated from Austria?

Try your Hapsburg-bashing history some place else.


51 posted on 08/19/2004 9:02:19 PM PDT by Guelph4ever (“Tu es Petrus, et super hanc petram aedificabo ecclesiam meam et tibi dabo claves regni coelorum”)
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To: Destro

Guleph4ever has got you, Destro. The Habsburg commitment to trialism and the loyalty of Hungary to the Habsburg crown are matters of well-known historical fact. Despite your characterization of them as a band of patriotic freedom fighters, the Black Hand was in fact an anti-Christian organization, one that commited the sin of disloyalty towards God and the King that God had appointed over them. (Christians are called to honor Caesar, not to shoot him in the guts. Recall that Dante placed Brutus and Cassius in the very Pit of Hell.) They were instead a kind of blood-and-soil cult, an ethno-theist. ultranationalist terrorist organization dedicated to the establishment of a Serbian Empire — a sort of Balkan Taliban.

I don't refer to World War One by that false name. I call it what it was: the Suicide of the West. Gavrilo Prizip killed more than a man that day in 1914 — he set in motion a chain of events that killed Christendom, that killed Western Civilization itself. The results were World War Two, and the nightmare that continues all around us today.

Those people of good will in America and other nations who cling to the values, morals, and ideals that the Habsburgs stood for represent the last bastion of Christian civilization. Today, the light of Christendom is down to its embers, and is being smothered from without (Islam) and within (secular humanism). When that light goes out, only scattered sparks will survive — those few sundered believers and small communities that will remain, each alone in the darkness, each reflecting the Light that cannot fail.

May the Emperor Karl of blessed memory pray for us. May the Lord come quickly.


53 posted on 08/20/2004 1:28:42 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: GirlShortstop; Incorrigible; Coleus; wideawake; VermiciousKnid; Goetz_von_Berlichingen; hobbes1; ...
FYI NYC-area Catholic FReepers!

A Traditional Latin Mass

To Be Offered to Invoke the Intercession for America
of Blessed Charles, Emperor of Austria, King of Hungary

Saturday, October 9, 2004
2:00 P.M.

Our Lady of Good Counsel Church
230 East 90th Street
(Between Second and Third Avenues)
New York, NY 10128

Sponsored by The Roman Forum

64 posted on 09/27/2004 4:41:47 PM PDT by ELS
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