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Why is there a vocations crisis, a seminary crisis, a catechesis crisis, a liturgical crisis, a church attendance crisis? Is everybody but the Pope hallucinating?

Why indeed. Well I can tell you it isn't because of the Novus Ordo Mass. People have been torn away from any semblance of universal truth. Anything goes in secular life, except holding to Faith. It isn't because we use the vernacular in Mass.

But suppose the law also said if you break and enter because you sincerely believed there was an emergency, and that if this was the case, whether you were actually right or not, you would not be guilty of any crime-- how then could you afterwards be justly accused of any crime?

As long as we are playing the intention game, perhaps Lefebvre had the intention of seizing the reins of the Church away from the Pope? Not actually, but by being able to dictate a "return" to the Tridentine Mass? Lets say the person breaking in took items and refused to return them, like the SSPX continues to claim the Church has lost it's sanctity? Even if there was a perceived emergency, a crime was still committed. How about at a burning house where the flames are rising you steal before the flames engulf the house and not return the items, that too is theft.

And he compounded this with a false charge of schism besides. Yet a schism must actually exist for such a charge to have any validity.

Once again the Pope picks the people who are in union with him, and he can Judge who is doing what he thinks is right, and is in Union with the Church. The Vatican II council did what it thought was needed to combat secularism, and save all of Catholicism. There is a Schism because the SSPX will not agree to generous and reasonable terms of agreement, like admitted the Novus Ordo is a valid Mass, and saying at least one Mass. They can even say it in Latin, because that is wholly permitted in that rite.
487 posted on 08/02/2004 6:19:19 PM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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