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Not at all sure I want to bother about Obama.

He strikes me as a strident, passionate, articulate etc. sort of person around whom the puppet masters and certainly the DIMRATS could predictably craft a very attractive leader along the lines of Kennedy.

I think he's mostly sincere but I think his sincerity is built on sand. He will sound like he's so solid etc. etc. etc. but when the bottom line is reached, he'll end up supporting globalism and all the other commie, socialist hogwash and horse biscuits we've come to expect from that side of reality.

But he'll package it so slickly; so articulately; so passionately; so smoothly that people will swoon and praise him to high heaven and his star will rise dramatically, I suspect. For him, it will be somewhat real, I suspect and somewhat sincere. But he is either naive about the puppet masters playing him for a fool or he's a real complicit fool going along for the ride and hoping to enjoy the power and perks that go with it.

I think, as bright as he is, he's probably 40 naive and 60 planning to enjoy the power and perks and rationalizing it that it's the only way he can help the 'little people.' But as ever, the little people will be quickly lost and stepped on to lift him higher.

Whether intentionally or just the way they do things in that side of reality and in tooo many other sides of reality, too.

God told Israel to wipe some tribes out. Sometimes they obeyed. Killed all men,women, children and animals. Except for perhaps some rare exceptions who were in other lands married to other tribal peoples, the bloodline ended. Functionally, certainly, the tribe as a cohesive, functioning group, ended.

shew! i got nothin to add @ obama & that group. to say that was well stated is truly an understatement. ive had too much of their phony baloney lipservice to 'values', while destroying all that is decent & good in our culture. if you can actually stand to listen to the rats for more than 30 seconds, well, my hats off to ya! i cant do it.

am in accord, also, with the idea of "in the greater sense" - or - "for all practical purposes" re: the identity of the 3 horns. now, humbly asking (because, far be it from me to get ahead!) if you got around to that little math problem.....LUB