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To: ultima ratio
By the way, the first proposition was condemned as heretical by Pius. Bishop Gasser commented on it at Vatican I:
Finally we do not separate the Pope, even minimally, from the consent of the Church, as long as that consent is not laid down as a condition which is either antecedent or consequent. We are not able to separate the Pope from the consent of the Church because this consent is never able to be lacking to him. Indeed, since we believe that the Pope is infallible through the divine assistance, by that very fact we also believe that the assent of the Church will not be lacking to his definitions since it is not able to happen that the body of bishops be separated from its head, and since the Church universal is not able to fail. For it is impossible that general obscurity be spread in respect to the more important truths which touch upon religion, as the Synod of Pistoia held.

883 posted on 07/21/2004 7:23:24 PM PDT by gbcdoj (No one doubts ... that the holy and most blessed Peter ... lives in his successors, and judges.)
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Assisi was a scandal that offended against the first commandment. Whether the Pope sinned or not only he knows, but it is very hard to believe he did not. He was certainly in error. This error was compounded last year when he repeated his shocking behavior. Whatever the Archbishop did pales in comparison to such a collosal offense that was probably heretical. It is time for Catholics to recognize the true radical nature of this celebrated man. He is a heterodox pope.


887 posted on 07/21/2004 7:49:05 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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