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To: gbcdoj

No, you are the one in denial. You imagine the word "sacrifice" sprinkled throughout with only the most glancing and tenuous recognition of the concept of Propitiation, can compensate for the deficiencies of the whole. There can be no sense of this without a fulsome acknowledgement of our sin and the punishment due to it, nor of our need for expiation--all of which has been suppressed and diminished. The emphasis is on the opposite: on celebration of salvation, with ourselves at the center of our focus. The Communion is the climax of the new Mass, not the Immolation on the altar.


852 posted on 07/21/2004 11:37:52 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio
The emphasis is on the opposite: on celebration of salvation, with ourselves at the center of our focus.

Believe what you will, but that simply isn't true.

853 posted on 07/21/2004 11:40:51 AM PDT by gbcdoj (No one doubts ... that the holy and most blessed Peter ... lives in his successors, and judges.)
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