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To: AAABEST
Sir, with all due respect your contention that the church hasn't suffered greatly over the last few decades and that it doesn't have some very deep rooted problems is just illogical. Everything from being in the red every year financially to being infested with sexual deviants and criminals to a precipitous decline of influence in the Western world.

I think you are putting words in my mouth. I haven't said anything about the Church not suffering or anything else of the sort. Obviously the defection of about half the mass going population in the west (from 60% to 30% attendance), the spread of sexual deviancy, and similar problems are about.

All I said is that most Catholics don't see the crisis we see, so it seems very difficult to equate it to Arianism.

The subjects you mention are personal sins, not heresies imposed upon us.

This leads me to echo the words that St. Josemaria wrote about 80 years ago. "These world crises are crises of saints. God needs a few man of his own in every human endeavor. Then 'Pax Christi in regno Christi'"

The crisis of today, IMHO, is a crisis of holiness and a loss of the sense of sin by many Catholics. They aren't heretics like the Arians. They are confused, and the confusion stems from the changes in the Church and the growth of secularism and scientism since WWI. And the reason people can't perceive the crisis is because they don't see themselves or others as unholy sinners in need of the sacraments.

Where are our modern saints?

I hope you agree with this last word.

333 posted on 07/16/2004 5:38:37 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

Yes I do agree with your last word. Thank you for clearing your position up.


338 posted on 07/16/2004 5:49:17 PM PDT by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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