[TradicalRC]

...we are not faced with individual personal defections but with widespread institutional apostasy and heresy, then if that were the case, then quietly working within the system is just as clearly not the right answer.

This is why conservatives lose. We think in either-or terms when we should do both. Work within the Church to bring her back to her true roots and work without to maintain that pure objective. The left does it all the time, that is why they are so successful.

[Piers-the-Ploughman]

you wrote: Work within the Church to bring her back to her true roots and work without to maintain that pure objective.

I knew there had to someone else out there who thought similar to me. thanks Tradical RC