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To: redeemed_by_His_blood
Jesus is the Elect's kinsman redeemer redeeming a particular people for Himself.

Where is that in the NT? I can't seem to find it. Seems like the apostle Peter was of a different mindset, though.

2 Peter 3:9  The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

29 posted on 06/28/2004 8:06:54 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse (Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular.)
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To: asformeandformyhouse
...but that all should come to repentance.

You're a bit late to the party...That argument is over here...Among other places.

30 posted on 06/28/2004 9:22:13 AM PDT by opus86
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To: asformeandformyhouse
Where is that in the NT?

Sorry, I assumed you accepted the Old Testament to be the word of God. My mistake.

32 posted on 06/28/2004 10:51:11 AM PDT by redeemed_by_His_blood
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To: asformeandformyhouse
John 17

1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should[1] give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 4I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. 5And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

6 "I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. 7Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You. 8For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me. 9"I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours.

You say you believe Jesus, but do you, really?

Jesus is saying something very different from what you are saying.

36 posted on 06/28/2004 1:13:36 PM PDT by redeemed_by_His_blood
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