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To: connectthedots
When Palmer admitted that predestination, as it applies to the salvation or eternal damnation of every person, is illogical and not consistent with a loving and just God, and offered no justification for that view other than he believes it anyway; I rejected his brand of Calvinism.

I'd be curious to see the citation in question, where Palmer "admitted that predestination, as it applies to the salvation or eternal damnation of every person, is illogical and not consistent with a loving and just God".

I'm not doubting you've a specific excerpt in mind, I'm just wondering whether or not the wording in question admits of other interpretations than that which you have derived. Perhaps Palmer did not intend the meaning which you have gleaned from that particular section, or constructed his wording poorly.

At any event, I'd be interested to read the Citation you have in mind. Thanks!

best, op

15 posted on 06/18/2004 7:07:33 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
At any event, I'd be interested to read the Citation you have in mind. Thanks!

Do not hold your breath

16 posted on 06/18/2004 7:09:32 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Stubborn is worse than stupid.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; nobdysfool
I am heading out of town very early Saturday morning for a few days and also will need to locate my copy of the book. Should be able to get to it by Wednesday assuming I can locate the book.

Nobdysfool is currently reading the book so maybe he can confirm my construction of that portion of Palmer's book. While my construction may not be exact since I did not look at the book when I made the post in question, I do believe my paraphrase is a fair representation of what Palmer wrote. Even if it is not exact, what he did actually write might surprise you; but maybe not. I would venture to say I read that portion of his book at least 15-20 times over the years.

If you are specifically interested if Palmer stated that his position on predestination defies human logic, I can say without hesitation that is what he said. He does follow that up with a statement that says, in essence, that even though it is illogical, the Bible clearly teaches it and thus he believes it.

Nobdysfool can corret me if I am a bit off, but I think the substance of my paraphase very accurate.

21 posted on 06/18/2004 11:22:47 PM PDT by connectthedots
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