To: ultima ratio
I do not exaggerate. Here is what one of the greatest liturgists of the twentieth century, Klaus Gamber, has said regarding this liturgical break with tradition:What makes a litugist great? That his thoughts might support yours?
The statement of yours that the new mass was created "whole-cloth" is not supported either by Klaus Gamber or Cardinal Ratzinger. "Whole-cloth" would be something entirely new, containing nothing resembling the old. It doesn't take a genius to recognize the similarities.
42 posted on
04/04/2004 11:34:45 AM PDT by
St.Chuck
To: St.Chuck; ultima ratio
It doesn't take a genius to recognize the similarities.
Similarities with what? A Lutheran service?
To: St.Chuck
Gamber and Ratzinger are both well-studied on the liturgy. Without denying the validity of the NO, nor the authority of Paul VI to canonize it, there are a large number of practices which Ratzinger and Gamber address in SERIOUS need of re-examination.
Apparently after a number of fits and starts, they are going to begin in English-speaking countries with a better translation (not perfect, but better) and it MAY even include faithful translations of the Orations.
We have a Spanish-English fascicle at our Parish and without knowing a lot of Spanish, I can tell you that they are DEFINITELY hearing a different Gospel than we are in English.
Ratzinger has also written extensively about the music problems (arguably an area in which he is truly gifted,) and they are quite significant.
If he outlasts JPII, that may be the NEXT area of reform.
It's not for nothing that R. is talking openly about "the reform of the Reform." It is sorely needed.
74 posted on
04/04/2004 2:52:30 PM PDT by
ninenot
(Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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