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To: pascendi
Someone needs to step forward with something from the documents of Vatican II that looks even remotely like the examples above.
But, most eminent and reverend fathers, this proposal simply cannot be accepted because we are not dealing with something new here. Already thousands and thousands of dogmatic judgments have gone forth from the Apostolic See; where is the law which prescribed the form to be observed in such judgments? (James T. O'Connor. The Gift of Infallibility: The Official Relatio on Infallibility of Bishop Vincent Gasser at Vatican Council I. pp 47)

Can you find "thousands and thousands" of judgments which look like your two cited dogmas?

200 posted on 04/12/2004 2:32:22 PM PDT by gbcdoj (in mundo pressuram habetis, sed confidite, ego vici mundum)
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To: gbcdoj
"Can you find "thousands and thousands" of judgments which look like your two cited dogmas?"

You're switching terms. You are now using the term judgments. But before, you specifically said infallible definition:

"Therefore Lumen Gentium §21 contains an infallible definition."
204 posted on 04/12/2004 6:36:51 PM PDT by pascendi
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