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To: BlackElk
You are entitled to your opinion but you don't have a right to cast dispersions on traditionalists when other religions are elevated to the same level of our Holy Faith by the Vatican - the ancient Faith is the only Faith - and all the ecumenical hooey is for the birds. Perhaps you should check which flock you are amongst.
96 posted on 03/25/2004 5:09:55 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDieAmerica
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To: LiveFreeOrDieAmerica; BlackElk; ninenot; sinkspur
You are entitled to your opinion but you don't have a right to cast dispersions on traditionalists when other religions are elevated to the same level of our Holy Faith by the Vatican

One more tally into the dishonest field.

The MYSTICAL, HOLY ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, CHRIST'S KINGDOM on EARTH has TRUTH at its HEART, apparently LFODA, you do not.
97 posted on 03/25/2004 6:00:52 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: LiveFreeOrDieAmerica; ninenot; GirlShortstop; saradippity; ArrogantBustard; Desdemona; ...
Well, you seem very new to a very old argument here in which each and every Catholic thread is the target of hijacking efforts by the adherents of the SSPX schism. I think you meant to claim that I do not have the right to cast ASPERSIONS rather than "dispersions" on "traditionalists" yada, yada. If you think you can have tradition while rejecting Peter and you are not Eastern Orthodox, you suffer delusions. You would have to accept the concept of the square circle to believe in anti-papal "Catholicism."

That is nice of you to concede that I am entitled to my opinion. Nonetheless, I have and do and always will cast aspersions upon those who delude themselves into anti-papal "Catholicism." Your leaders are excommunicated, your movement is a schism and the adherents of that movement are in schism. You expected maybe congatulations???????? You will have to get your congratulations from the surviving Econe crowd of excommunicati or their imagined subordinates. Don't look to Catholics for validation of the schism.

Your moral relativism and assertions of some phony moral equivalency between SSPX and other non-Catholic faiths availeth not. The Lutherans do not claim an illicit right to consecrate Catholic bishops or to ordain Catholic priests. Nor do the Methodists. Nor do the Presbyterians. Nor do the animistic pagans. Nor do the Muslims. The SSPX ex-Catholics do claim the stolen goods of Apostolic Succession and the "right" to perpetuate the schism by illicit consecrations and illicit ordinations and other illicit activity.

The schismatic whining sounds like that of the bank robber who, having been sentenced to thirty years in the hoosegow, wails that none of the OTHER bank robbers got thirty years and somehow blames the judge for his misery being caused by the sentencing judge's alleged unfairness. As any parent knows, "fair" is the ultimate four-letter word.

I am and always have been and always will be in the Roman Catholic faith, the one that is run by the Roman Pontiff whoever he may be at any given time (whether I like him personally or not and I like this pope very much) and not the one that was created by a rebellious, impudent, defiant and paranoid French archbishop, gone native in his old age as he rejected the papacy and the direct papal order NOT to consecrate the Econe 4 as bishops, thereby breaking his own written agreement NOT to consecrate those bishops.

Schismatic tastes and presumptions are NOT the Roman Catholic Church or faith.

I belong to the Roman Catholic Church that does NOT include the dead excommunicated Marcel the Impudent or the excommunicated Econe 4 or the schismatic adherents to their anti-Catholic sect. Since Christ chose and renamed Peter, now, then, at all times in between and forever: Ubi Petrus, Ibi Ecclesia.

Your opinion does not count. My opinion does not count. Excommunicated Marcel's opinion certainly does not count. Nor does Fellay's or that of any other excommunicatus or of any schismatic or even of any actual Catholic. JP II holds the keys as none of the rest of mankind does today. When his successor is elected, he will hold the keys.

Finally, it is John Paul II who excommunicated your heroes, declared SSPX a schism and declared adherents of the SSPX schism to be, well, schismatic. I follow the pope. You are no more empowered to determine the contents of what you call "the ancient Faith" than was Luther or Calvin or Zwingli or Arius or any other of your predecessors in rebellion. You should be thankful that he has not administered the full measure of justice to the cancer that is the SSPX.

101 posted on 03/27/2004 10:22:37 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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