FR Religion Forum has Crossed the Tiber

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[ksen]

Well it looks to me like the FR Religion forum has crossed the Tiber and is now an official organ of the Vatican.

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Mack, am I a Protestant?

If you are, you sure as hell had me fooled. :)

BigMack

[SoliDeoGloria]

Protestants and Catholics on this forum are not brothers. - Codie

Regardless of how they feel, we are all baptized into the mystical body of Christ. - Salve Regina

I'm just a little curious: Do you see Protestants as being apart of "His One True Church"? (quoted from your post #200). The apostle Paul seemed to metaphorically equate the "Body of Christ" with the Church: Eph 5:23, 29; Col 1:18, 24. In fact, each of those passages seems to convey that the phrases are identical and interchangeable. Do you believe there is a difference between the "Body of Christ" and "The Church"?

If all Christians really have been "baptized into the mystical body of Christ", then isn't that kinda close to the definition of a truly Universal (Catholic) Church? In the least, have you ever wondered why Protestants will say the Apostle's Creed, and not skip a beat on the line: "I believe in the holy catholic Church"?

[xzins]

The Catholics on this forum are my brothers (and sisters.) I've always been above-board about that. I've also been above-board about my disagreements.

The Catholics I have met are Trinitarian, resurrection-believing, Holy Spirit receiving Christians.

Mark 9: 38"Teacher," said John, "we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us." 39"Do not stop him," Jesus said. "No one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40for whoever is not against us is for us. 41I tell you the truth, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to Christ will certainly not lose his reward.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

You didn't answer my question Mom (getting it deleted by the Moderator hardly counts), so I am going to repeat it again.

In my city, Philadelphia, the Catholics areas (both city and old inner ring suburbs) tend to be Republican. My neighborhood, Fox Chase is 50% Catholic and votes about 65% Republican. All of the northeast Philly Catholic Neighborhoods combined (Fox Chase, Lawndale, Bustleton, Somerton, Torresdale, Mayfair, Port Richmond, Tacony) are about 60% Catholic and vote about 65% Republican. We have 4 Catholic Republican State Reps. and 1 conservative Catholic Democrat State Rep. from this area. We have the only Republican City District Councilman (thanks to Gerrymandering, otherwise, we'd have two or three). We would have a Republican Congressman, were it not for the Protestant/Jewish vote from their nieghborhoods and their suburbs putting in Awful Joe Hoeffel. Italian South Philly is about 95% Catholic and votes 60% Republican. Italian/Irish Drexel Hill is 75% Catholic and votes about 70% Republican. Etc., Etc.

You mention the City of Buffalo. Buffalo is hardly 75% Catholic, and so they could hardly account for a 75% vote for Democrats. Last I checked, Buffalo was barely half white (most of the Catholics anywhere in the US), and less than half Catholic. I doubt the city of Buffalo, a 300,000 strong city, has 100,000 Catholics. What have been some recent election results in Buffalo City (Bush 2000, Hildabeast 2000, etc.)?

Can you provide numbers to back up what you are saying?

Near as I can tell, you have zero evidence to back up what you are saying. It sounds more like you are carping about your ex-religion to cast all the rest of us Catholics in a bad light.

If you don't have an answer, its okay to admit you are wrong about asserting that Catholics are all liberal democrats.

[Codie]

Your a good man xzins.I didn't mean to single you out.I needed to vent my frustration and I just hoped you would understand.

[SoliDeoGloria]

...the vast majority of Catholics tend toward the Democrat liberal agenda in things like welfare, anti war .. - RnMomof7

...its okay to admit you are wrong about asserting that Catholics are all liberal democrats. - Hermann the Cherusker

Umm... If you are misrepresenting what Mom said, should we trust your numbers? It's ok to admit you are wrong...

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[SoliDeoGloria]

I believe you are correct concerning the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church post Vatican II. Trent, Vatican I, and a whole host of former "traditional" doctrines are quite different in their approach.

What all Protestants object to is the following equation:

The Body of Christ = The Holy Catholic Church = The Roman Catholic Church

We of course believe the first part, but not the tertiary link to the Roman Catholic Church.

[SoliDeoGloria]

Oh. What are you, Eastern Orthodox?

The "We" referenced the "All Protestants". I apologize for the misleading pronoun.

I am a humble (Lord helping) member of the Presbyterian Church in America. As such, I come from the "Reformed Tradition" of Protestants (Calvin, Knox, the Westminster Divines, etc).

[xzins]

I am fine.

:>)

[GirlShortstop]

**I believe that the Church teaches that they (the baptized) are baptized into the Church, but are protesting some parts of the faith. The Church calls them "our separated brethren."**

I believe you are correct concerning the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church post Vatican II. Trent, Vatican I, and a whole host of former "traditional" doctrines are quite different in their approach.

A Catholic link that would support your statement SDG would be appreciated.  FReegards.

[Warlord David]

Yea, Your 13 step should come with a warning.

WARNING these 13 steps do lead down to hell.
It closer than you think.

[dsc]

"The Catholics I have met are Trinitarian, resurrection-believing, Holy Spirit receiving Christians."

Gee, that's the nicest thing anybody's said about me in a long time, even if I'm just one member of the group.

Thanks.

[VermiciousKnid]

Nah, from the white dust arising from the demolition of the Taj Mahoney so that Mel Gibson can errect a Tridentine / Trad Cathedral (gotta spend those millions on something).

Now, wouldn't THAT be something to see!

Regards,

[drstevej]

***Now, wouldn't THAT be something to see! ***

Ye have nor, because ye ask not!