FR Religion Forum has Crossed the Tiber

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[ksen]

Well it looks to me like the FR Religion forum has crossed the Tiber and is now an official organ of the Vatican.

[Diamond]

Saint Nike.... "Just Do It."

Hezekiah 2:20

Cordially

[Diamond]

Nothing, really. It's just my feeble attempt at a little dry humor in the spirit of the thread.

Cordially,

[SoothingDave]

How to Annoy a Protestant in 15 Easy Steps

Ask him if he calls his dad "Father."

SD

[SoothingDave]

The point to all of this is that "self-identified" Catholics vote just like the rest of America. Actual church-going Catholics overwhelming voteed for Bush in 2000.

So saying "Catholics vote Democrat" depends entirely on whther "Catholic" means anyone who claims he is such, or whether it means those who actually go to church regularly.

SD

[Diamond]

Ask him if he calls his dad "Father."

When our children were young, they called me "Daddy". It's the the equivalent of "Abba" in Aramaic. It was always music to my ears, and I think that to God our Father it is the same way.

Cordially,

[Diamond]

Thank you, Salve. All I can say is dittos.

Cordially,

[OLD REGGIE]

Step 3: Remind them that the Catholic Church wrote the NT of the Bible, owns the oldest copies of it and actually put it together in the 300s by the order of Pope St. Damasus.

Fourthly, the Catholic claim of giving the Bible to the world cannot be true because they have not been the sole possessor of the Bible at any time. Some of the most valuable Greek Bibles and Versions have been handed down to us from non-Roman Catholic sources. A notable example of this is the Codex Sinaiticus which was found in the monastery of St. Catherine (of the Greek Orthodox Church) at Mount Sinai in 1844 and is now in the British Museum. It contains all of the books of the New Testament and all but small portions of the Old Testament. Scholars are certain that this manuscript was made early in the fourth century, not later than 350 A.D. This manuscript found by a German scholar named, Tishendorf, who was a Protestant, and this manuscript which is the most complete of all has never been in the hands of the Roman Catholic Church.

Another valuable manuscript that has never been possessed by the Roman Catholic Church is the Codex Alexandrianus. It, too, is now on exhibit in the manuscript room of the British Museum in London. It was a gift from the Patriarch of Constantinople (of the Greek Orthodox Church) to Charles I in 1628. It had been in possession of the Patriarchs for centuries and originally came from Alexandria, Egypt from which it gets its name. Scholars are certain that this manuscript was also made in the fourth century and, along with the Codex Sinaiticus, is thought to be one of the fifty Greek Bibles commissioned to be copied by Constantine.

There was no Roman Catholic Church when the Bible was written

(not to mention that the first Pope is buried in the Vatican, by some odd coincidence)

Do you mean the Pope with two skulls?

The most precious of Peter's bones found in the Graffiti Wall are the 29 fragments of the Apostle's skull. Note: the 29 pieces of Peter's skull found in the Grafitti Wall are not to be confused with Peter's other skull, which is stored in the Cathedral of St. John Lateran.

Peter's Bones

[OLD REGGIE]

An online forum provides a certain level of anonymity, and with it a coarsening of manners.

And perhaps allows a more frank (less "politically correct") discussion.

[ArrogantBustard]

Bwahahahahaha!

It contains all of the books of the New Testament and all but small portions of the Old Testament. Scholars are certain that this manuscript was made early in the fourth century, not later than 350 A.D. when there was but One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, of which the (Earthly) leader was the Bishop of Rome. The great East/West schism had not occured yet, much less the Protestant rebellion, and the Unitarjewmian cult had most certain not yet been invented.

[xzins]

Frank is fine.

But WWJD??

[al_c]

Actually, I think you could pin the Catholic voting habits on the unions. A lot of the elder Catholics in the country sided with the unions and their voting habits are hard to change. Fewer and fewer Catholics (especially us younger ones) are voting for the dems. I've even seen my inlaws change their voting habits over the years. When I met them, they were more on the Dems side, but are now voting Repub on every issue.

[al_c]

You Rang?

Hey ... just what do you think you're doin', buddy?!

[OLD REGGIE]

when there was but One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, of which the (Earthly) leader was the Bishop of Rome. The great East/West schism had not occured yet, much less the Protestant rebellion, and the Unitarjewmian cult had most certain not yet been invented.

A brilliant mixture of truth and falsehood.

Council at Nicea (325 AD)

CANON IV. IT is by all means proper that a bishop should be appointed by all the bishops in the province; but should this be difficult, either on account of urgent necessity or because of distance, three at least should meet together, and the suffrages of the absent bishops] also being given and communicated in writing, then the ordination should take place. But in every province the ratification of what is done should be left to the Metropolitan.

CANON VI. LET the ancient customs in Egypt, Libya and Pentapolis prevail, that the Bishop of Alexandria have jurisdiction in all these, since the like is customary for the Bishop of Rome also. Likewise in Antioch and the other provinces, let the Churches retain their privileges. And this is to be universally understood, that if any one be made bishop without the consent of the Metropolitan, the great Synod has declared that such a man ought not to be a bishop. If, however, two or three bishops shall from natural love of contradiction, oppose the common suffrage of the rest, it being reasonable and in accordance with the ecclesiastical law, then let the choice of the majority prevail.

[OLD REGGIE]

But WWJD??

Neither you nor I know.

[SoothingDave]

And this is to be universally understood

There's some wishful thinking.

from natural love of contradiction

Sounds familiar.

SD