Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: sinkspur
Calvinists also believe that if you're saved, you can't lose your salvation. How arrogant is that?

To believe that few will be saved is not to believe in the Calvinist heresy; it is simply to recognize that while salvation is theoretically open to all, only those who are worthy will be saved.
143 posted on 03/18/2004 7:34:43 PM PST by Loyalist (Tony Clement for Leader: Conservative Party of Canada!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 141 | View Replies ]


To: Loyalist
So, the Good Shepherd, who leaves ninety-nine to go after the one, wasted His time, I guess.

Why did He even bother enduring death, for a handful?

144 posted on 03/18/2004 7:38:27 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 143 | View Replies ]

To: Loyalist
Calvinists also believe that if you're saved, you can't lose your salvation. How arrogant is that?

To believe that few will be saved is not to believe in the Calvinist heresy; it is simply to recognize that while salvation is theoretically open to all, only those who are worthy will be saved.
- Loyalist

Wow. I mean, Wow! You state Calvinism is arrogant, and then proceed to say that Christ died for "only those who are worthy."

I assume you missed the part where Christ says he didn't come for the healthy / righteous. Here it is:

Mark 2:17
And hearing this, Jesus said to them, "[Matt 9:12, 13; Luke 5:31, 32] It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick; I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

While we're at it, let's throw in some Romans for good measure:

Romans 5:6-8
6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Oh, and, by the way, you should also take Christ's word for never loosing your Salvation:

John 10:27-29
27 "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.

Just to summarize: We don't keep our salvation, God keeps it for us. And since God doesn't fail, neither will our salvation.
154 posted on 03/19/2004 4:30:41 PM PST by SoliDeoGloria ("without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness" - Hebrews 9:22)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 143 | View Replies ]

To: Loyalist
88Calvinists also believe that if you're saved, you can't lose your salvation. How arrogant is that?***

Depends on why they believe you can't lose it. If they believed it is because of their merit then it is arrogant. But they don't so it isn't. If they believe that salvation is based on Christ's merits, which they do. It is a very humble doctrine.

155 posted on 03/19/2004 4:45:08 PM PST by drstevej (Repentant prayer of LIVING saints is the precursor to genuine revival.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 143 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson