The Little Number of Those Who Are Saved

Our Lady of the Rosary Library ^ | St. Leonard of Port Maurice

[NeoCaveman]

There must be souls in hell, sinkspur.

No need for a hell to even exitst, if no one ever went there. And we know that hell does exist so, therefor there must be atleast one soul in hell if not many.

[american colleen]

And how you guys say you don't work your way to heaven is beyond me.

2 Peter 1:9-10 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall.

[american colleen]

St. Leonard isn't so obscure in the North End of Boston.

Is there something in particular you disagree with in the essay? Something that goes against the teachings of the Church?

[ArrogantBustard]

He's trying to keep people out of Hell. Abortion is the matter of Mortal Sin. Likewise contraception. That the Church teaches this is widely known. Lots of people (including lots of Catholics) commit abortion and contraception.

A person engaged in habitual contraception is (objectively) engaged in an unrepented habit of Mortal Sin.

Unrepented Mortal Sin is what puts people in Hell.

Warning someone that he is on a highway to Hell is an act of great Charity.

[ArrogantBustard]

It's 80 degrees here :-)

Enjoy it. It's sleeting in NoVa.

[Maximilian]

I'm familiar with St. Leonard's sermon, it's bookmarked on my computer and I've read it several times.

Ah, so then you have no excuse for denying the plain teaching that most Catholics go to hell.

A saint's sermon carries a whole lot more weight with me than someone on the internet presuming to judge the state of another's soul. So I admit nothing

But there was never a question of judging the state of any individual's soul. It was always a question of the eventual destiny of the vast majority of Catholics -- precisely the question addressed by St. Leonard. Since you knew his sermon, then you knew the answer. So what's the point of pretending otherwise?

[american colleen]

Below the belt!!! Not fair!!

The snow is pretty but you just get SICK OF IT by March.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

LOL.. I know it but I couldn't stop :-)

It's going back into the 60's next week, brrrrrrr!

LOL

[xJones]

Well bless my soul and body, I think we have a Calvinist Francisan Friar thread.

Hail Mary and Calvin!

[sinkspur]

Is there anything you disagree with in this essay?

Yes:

All of this means that the number of the damned who will be cast into fire like straw is far greater than that of the saved, whom the heavenly Father will one day gather into His barns like precious wheat.

He has no way of knowing this. No way at all.

I don't get trying to scare people into heaven.

[sinkspur]

There must be souls in hell, sinkspur.

How do you know?

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

So today you're saying you do work your way to heaven.

BigMack

[drstevej]

Be careful using the words Calvinist and Friar in the same post. This could become a Servetus thread!

[ArrogantBustard]

Jesus said so. Matt 7:13-14

That's even in the regular Sunday Gospel reading sequence. I'm sure it's familiar to you.

[sinkspur]

then you have no excuse for denying the plain teaching that most Catholics go to hell.

It is not a teaching.

You still haven't shown us the infallible teaching of the Church that the vast majority of souls go to hell.

You can't even show me the infallible teaching that there is ONE soul in hell.

[ArrogantBustard]

Repentant prayer of saints

Repentance ... How appropriate to this thread.

[xJones]

This could become a Servetus thread!

Not fair. I was going to post something but I had sworn by Billy Graham to lay off the KFC comments.

BTW, did you bring popcorn?

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

All of this means that the number of the damned who will be cast into fire like straw is far greater than that of the saved, whom the heavenly Father will one day gather into His barns like precious wheat.

He has no way of knowing this. No way at all.

sink, this is straight from Matthew 13:24-30.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Here's another one:

Matthew 12:36-37. I assure you, on judgment day people will be held accountable for every unguarded word they speak. By your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.